StinkyPinky
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Now that the highest end x comes with a cooler, it makes it much more attractive for people who want to just plug in and go.
xblax
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Yeah me too, pricing is a bit crazy. The price difference on amazon.de was about 5€ between 2700X/2700 and 2600X/2600. I preordered 2600X (227€) and 2700X (337€) and have to see which one I'm going to cancel. But I still hope to get a good deal on the 2700 non X, because I'm more into tuning my next PC for power efficiency than into overclocking. But the Wraith Prism really makes that decision hard
More money for a better binned chip and a heatsink that's decent to use to you can flip on eBay. Not a bad upgrade.
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If those are legit numbers, the 2700X w/ cooler is going to be a heck of a deal if it is only ~$30 more than a 2700.
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Actually this bm is where the uplift vs prior gen will be smallest i guess. Goes to say something about what this minor facelift can give of fairly big improvement when the new turbo mode and imc really is needed.
Looks like a compute beast. Same perf as 6950 that cost nearly 2k 1.5 year ago. How is that progress vs prior years !! Look at 3770 vs 7770. Sad. Glad amd is back !
Now we want 7nm zen 2 in one year. Lol. And zen 3 on euv in 2-3 years. Bang.
Really? You are comparing a cpu to a dgpu??
Assuming you meant the 7700/7700K, as usual, you are cherry picking the comparison to make intel look bad. Why not compare the 3770 to the 8700? (Rhetorical question BTW)
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Yep and that was still benchmarked on a X370 board. Performance gains in latency depended multi-threaded applications will be even better. That hopefully means the reviews will show much more consistent performance throughout the various gaming and applications benchmarks than before with Ryzen 1st gen.
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Review: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (Chipset X370)
BY IVÁN MARTÍNEZ
04/06/2018
CPUS & APUS
Fast forward to the launch date on April 19, we present in a world premiere the review of the new AMD Ryzen 7 2700X , the flagship of the second generation of AMD Ryzen processors. Like its predecessor, the Ryzen 7 1700X , it has 8 cores and 16 threads , which increase its frequencies up to 3.70 GHz , and can reach 4.35 GHz in Boost mode. with an AMD X470 motherboard.
Let's see first its complete technical specifications :
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
Socket AM4
Fabrication process 12 nm
Cores / Threads 8 cores / 16 threads
Base Frequency 3.70 GHz
Turbo Frequency 4.35 GHz
Cache L3 2 × 8 MB
Compatible Memory DDR4-2933 Dual-Channel
PCIe lines 16 lines
TDP
Before starting the review, we would like to thank AMD for not sending us their products and therefore not forcing us to sign their NDA , so we can offer this review before anyone else. Next week, the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 .
Index of contents [Ocultar]
The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X arrives in a box similar to the previous generation, showing the processor from the side and protecting it perfectly inside, as well as the heatsink.
In addition to the warranty card and a sticker of Ryzen 7, this model comes with the AMD Wraith Prism , a model that acquires configurable RGB LED lighting from a USB header or from plates compatible with RGB strips , so we can customize your lighting to taste.
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
As we anticipated, the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X offers 8 cores , which in turn offer 16 threads that start from a base frequency of 3.7 GHz to reach 4.35 GHz in Turbo mode thanks to the XFR 2 automatic overclocking technologies and Precision Boost Overdrive . It offers a total of 2 × 8 MB of L3 cache , as well as 8 x 512 KB of L2 cache and 8 x 32 KB + 8 x 64 KB of L1 cache, thus offering a cache distribution identical to that of the Ryzen 7 1700X .
As we can see in CPU-Z , the set of instructions supported has MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3 and SHA, also the same as in the first generation of Ryzen .
Obviously it is a processor for the AM4 socket and therefore makes use of the " Pin Grip Array " connection system, where the pins are in the processor and not in the motherboard, highlighting the use of a total of 1,331 contacts.
Test Equipment
To analyze the performance of the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X processor we have assembled the following test equipment:
We have done the tests with the AMD Wraith Prism that accompanies the processor, which offers a sensational design once turned on and equipped with its RGB LED lighting .
BY IVÁN MARTÍNEZ
04/06/2018
CPUS & APUS
Fast forward to the launch date on April 19, we present in a world premiere the review of the new AMD Ryzen 7 2700X , the flagship of the second generation of AMD Ryzen processors. Like its predecessor, the Ryzen 7 1700X , it has 8 cores and 16 threads , which increase its frequencies up to 3.70 GHz , and can reach 4.35 GHz in Boost mode. with an AMD X470 motherboard.
Let's see first its complete technical specifications :
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
Socket AM4
Fabrication process 12 nm
Cores / Threads 8 cores / 16 threads
Base Frequency 3.70 GHz
Turbo Frequency 4.35 GHz
Cache L3 2 × 8 MB
Compatible Memory DDR4-2933 Dual-Channel
PCIe lines 16 lines
TDP
Before starting the review, we would like to thank AMD for not sending us their products and therefore not forcing us to sign their NDA , so we can offer this review before anyone else. Next week, the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 .
Index of contents [Ocultar]
- 1 Packaging and Accessories
- 2 AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
- 3 Testing Equipment
- 4 Tests
- 5 Temperature, Overclocking and Consumption
- 6 Conclusion
The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X arrives in a box similar to the previous generation, showing the processor from the side and protecting it perfectly inside, as well as the heatsink.
In addition to the warranty card and a sticker of Ryzen 7, this model comes with the AMD Wraith Prism , a model that acquires configurable RGB LED lighting from a USB header or from plates compatible with RGB strips , so we can customize your lighting to taste.
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
As we anticipated, the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X offers 8 cores , which in turn offer 16 threads that start from a base frequency of 3.7 GHz to reach 4.35 GHz in Turbo mode thanks to the XFR 2 automatic overclocking technologies and Precision Boost Overdrive . It offers a total of 2 × 8 MB of L3 cache , as well as 8 x 512 KB of L2 cache and 8 x 32 KB + 8 x 64 KB of L1 cache, thus offering a cache distribution identical to that of the Ryzen 7 1700X .
As we can see in CPU-Z , the set of instructions supported has MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3 and SHA, also the same as in the first generation of Ryzen .
Obviously it is a processor for the AM4 socket and therefore makes use of the " Pin Grip Array " connection system, where the pins are in the processor and not in the motherboard, highlighting the use of a total of 1,331 contacts.
Test Equipment
To analyze the performance of the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X processor we have assembled the following test equipment:
- Motherboard ASRock X370 Killer SLI
- Memories G.Skill FlareX DDR4 @ 3200 MHz
- MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming Z
- Be Quiet Font! Dark Power Pro 11 1200W
- Adata SU900 256GB SSD
- SSD Corsair LX 512 GB
- Operating System Windows 10 64 bits
We have done the tests with the AMD Wraith Prism that accompanies the processor, which offers a sensational design once turned on and equipped with its RGB LED lighting .
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Tests
Next, we show you the results of the performance tests performed on this and other processors in calculation benchmarks (wPrime), rendering (Cinebench), coding (x264), memories (Aida64) or focused on games (3D Mark).
Note: We have not been able to test games because the platform became unstable when opened , with crashes shortly after starting or even blue screenshots. Not having specific drivers for the new generation, it's something that could happen, but the funny thing is that it only happens in games , which would foreseeably be his weak point against Intel, so we'll have to wait a little longer to know if this will continue to be the case
Temperature, Overclocking and Consumption
Under an ambient temperature of 20ºC, the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X offers temperatures of about 31ºC at rest and about 56ºC in its stress test, a really good value that slightly improves that of the previous generation. The heatsink complies correctly in terms of loudness, around 40 dB at full performance, although it could rise to 45 dB if we take it to the limit.
On the consumption , to say that it has improved notably remaining around 200W for the complete equipment in the stress test of Aida64 (without discs or GPU). It is similar to that offered by Intel i7 processors, improving the Ryzen 7 1700X by 50W .
Overclocking is still not the strong point of these processors , because although they have increased their frequencies compared to the previous generation, we have only managed to bring the 8x cores to 4.20 GHz with 1.4V . The Ryzen Master OC application has not been able to use it for not having it updated to give compatibility to these processors, but without problems from the BIOS.
conclusion
The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X is a good review of the Ryzen 7 1700X with which AMD surprised us last year, improving it in all aspects.
On the one hand, we have higher frequencies , which even increase significantly with the new XFR 2 mode. This supposes an improvement around 10% in the different benchmarks that we have passed in front of its predecessor, something similar to what Intel offers in each new generation (up to the 8th). However, the memories seem not to behave correctly, although it may be due to not having specific drivers for this generation yet. We will check it soon.
In games we could not analyze if they have improved their poor performance against Intel, because we have had problems as we have discussed with all of them. Again, we will reanalyze it when we have X470 motherboards (or access to a new BIOS for the X370 chipset).
If the prices that we saw in Amazon Germany yesterday are true , it will go on sale around 335 euros , competing one on one with the i7-8700K , so we are in a situation similar to that of the previous generation.
Main advantages
+ Good performance / price ratio for professional environments
+ Excellent multi-core performance
+ Very good temperatures and consumption
+ 8 cores / 16 threads
+ Compatible with previous generation base plates
Negative aspects
- The memories do not finish going fine, at least for the moment
- Little overclocking capacity
Other Aspects
* We do not know his performance in games
Therefore, from El Chapuzas Informático we awarded the Gold Award to this processor for its good improvement over the previous generation, although it still has much to prove, especially in games.
Read more https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2018/04/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-review/
Next, we show you the results of the performance tests performed on this and other processors in calculation benchmarks (wPrime), rendering (Cinebench), coding (x264), memories (Aida64) or focused on games (3D Mark).
Note: We have not been able to test games because the platform became unstable when opened , with crashes shortly after starting or even blue screenshots. Not having specific drivers for the new generation, it's something that could happen, but the funny thing is that it only happens in games , which would foreseeably be his weak point against Intel, so we'll have to wait a little longer to know if this will continue to be the case
Temperature, Overclocking and Consumption
Under an ambient temperature of 20ºC, the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X offers temperatures of about 31ºC at rest and about 56ºC in its stress test, a really good value that slightly improves that of the previous generation. The heatsink complies correctly in terms of loudness, around 40 dB at full performance, although it could rise to 45 dB if we take it to the limit.
On the consumption , to say that it has improved notably remaining around 200W for the complete equipment in the stress test of Aida64 (without discs or GPU). It is similar to that offered by Intel i7 processors, improving the Ryzen 7 1700X by 50W .
Overclocking is still not the strong point of these processors , because although they have increased their frequencies compared to the previous generation, we have only managed to bring the 8x cores to 4.20 GHz with 1.4V . The Ryzen Master OC application has not been able to use it for not having it updated to give compatibility to these processors, but without problems from the BIOS.
conclusion
The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X is a good review of the Ryzen 7 1700X with which AMD surprised us last year, improving it in all aspects.
On the one hand, we have higher frequencies , which even increase significantly with the new XFR 2 mode. This supposes an improvement around 10% in the different benchmarks that we have passed in front of its predecessor, something similar to what Intel offers in each new generation (up to the 8th). However, the memories seem not to behave correctly, although it may be due to not having specific drivers for this generation yet. We will check it soon.
In games we could not analyze if they have improved their poor performance against Intel, because we have had problems as we have discussed with all of them. Again, we will reanalyze it when we have X470 motherboards (or access to a new BIOS for the X370 chipset).
If the prices that we saw in Amazon Germany yesterday are true , it will go on sale around 335 euros , competing one on one with the i7-8700K , so we are in a situation similar to that of the previous generation.
Main advantages
+ Good performance / price ratio for professional environments
+ Excellent multi-core performance
+ Very good temperatures and consumption
+ 8 cores / 16 threads
+ Compatible with previous generation base plates
Negative aspects
- The memories do not finish going fine, at least for the moment
- Little overclocking capacity
Other Aspects
* We do not know his performance in games
Therefore, from El Chapuzas Informático we awarded the Gold Award to this processor for its good improvement over the previous generation, although it still has much to prove, especially in games.
Read more https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2018/04/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-review/
DisEnchantment
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I am sure AMD will be glad to know too...
However those benchmarks seems weird, 2700X having 3/5 the memory BW of 1700X and 10% worse latencies.
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I am sure AMD will be glad to know too...
However those benchmarks seems weird, 2700X having 3/5 the memory BW of 1700X and 10% worse latencies.
Yeah, something is either messed up with their BIOS or memory configuration.
4.20GHz at 1.4V... not unexpected at this point, but still somewhat disappointing. With the new and improved multi-core turbo algorithm the 2700X is seemingly not even worth overclocking to me. Supposedly, some people have achieved 4.3-4.35GHz, though. Take that with a grain of salt.
Yeah, something is seriously wrong with that...
I am sure AMD will be glad to know too...
However those benchmarks seems weird, 2700X having 3/5 the memory BW of 1700X and 10% worse latencies.
Platform became unstable when opening games, only on games, even resulting in BSODs. Interesting. They do also state in the review that they had memory issues, as a negative point in the end.
Yeah, something's fishy here, they didn't even bother to try another motherboard instead of that asrock x370 killer sli? It has a Pinnacle Ridge AGESA BIOS available, but still.
I would dare to say, it could be both - results in AIDA64 memory test are simply poor.
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You would probably need a motherboard with beefier VRM (and proper BIOS) and a better cooler than the Wraith Prism to be able to clock higher.
Nah, DDR4-3200, even the crappiest Hynix CL16 sticks with auto subtimings don't score that poorly on AIDA's test.
The results here are at DDR4-2133/2400 level...
Could someone lend these people a proper AM4 motherboard like a C6H? Why is it that almost every leak is done on crappy boards with half assed BIOSes? It's irritating.
Markfw
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I am not sure its the motherboard. Did they update the bios ? did they use the XMP profile ? did they update the subtimings ? This could explain the games problem, and the memory problem.
I just updated the bios on my ab350 pro and it talks of the new chips. Also, I was able to run my cheap 3000 memory with the xmp profile, before it would only so 2400. ($99 for 2x8 gig sticks)
alexruiz
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Thank you for the post @Mockingbird
So reviews are already starting to surface.
Interesting reading, but to be honest, the review was done very poorly.
UEFI version? RAM timings? GPU drivers version? Were chipset drivers installed? If so, what version? Windows 10 build version?
I have been quite a vocal critic of online reviewers as I think many of them don't know what they are doing. This is a perfect example. I wouldn't be surprised if they just moved the boot drive from their intel PC with all patched for meltdown to the Ryzen PC...
I have used that board extensively (AsRock X370 killer sli/ac), and I have found it to be a very good performer and fully featured. In fact, I might even venture to say that it is was the best value for the money for X370 boards.
However, I have NOT tried the board with any ver 4.xx BIOS, and according to @VirtualLarry and some other fellow Ryzen owners, AsRock seems to be struggling with their 4.xx BIOses.
I might flash bios 4.70 in one of my PCs with a 1700X and take it for a spin.
So reviews are already starting to surface.
Interesting reading, but to be honest, the review was done very poorly.
UEFI version? RAM timings? GPU drivers version? Were chipset drivers installed? If so, what version? Windows 10 build version?
I have been quite a vocal critic of online reviewers as I think many of them don't know what they are doing. This is a perfect example. I wouldn't be surprised if they just moved the boot drive from their intel PC with all patched for meltdown to the Ryzen PC...
I have used that board extensively (AsRock X370 killer sli/ac), and I have found it to be a very good performer and fully featured. In fact, I might even venture to say that it is was the best value for the money for X370 boards.
However, I have NOT tried the board with any ver 4.xx BIOS, and according to @VirtualLarry and some other fellow Ryzen owners, AsRock seems to be struggling with their 4.xx BIOses.
I might flash bios 4.70 in one of my PCs with a 1700X and take it for a spin.
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Not for Single thread and gaming performance especially max OC. 8700k easily hits 4.8-5.0 Ghz.
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