AMD GPU14 Tech Event Sept 25 - AMD Hawiian Islands

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Arkadrel

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more reverbs, better reverbs...... *snoore*

The only way this matters if it becomes the "norm" for the new Xbone, and PS4 games that get ported to PC.

If this crap can really take up 15%+ of your CPU, and instead you could offload it to your GPU, then its a good thing.
 

Revolution 11

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All of these features look interesting but I wonder how many developers will actually take the time to code a good implementation? Certainly not many considering how many gamers don't care about audio.

This looks very interesting for horror games. Imagine this tech with the Oculus Rift, the game might give you a nervous breakdown.
 

cmdrdredd

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Well, at this point I guess I'll wait for reviews. I still hold firm that if the game is not created with lossless encoded audio, and still uses lossy formats, that this whole thing won't make a lick of difference. You can't make lossy audio sound better than the encoding method, no plug ins or trickery to simulate surround sound on stereo speakers/headphones (which we have had for a while now) can make up for the fidelity loss from the encoded audio. For example is BF4 uses something like DolbyDigital just to toss out a popular encoding method for audio, it's a lossy format. When the audio is taken off the studio mix it's encoded and compressed. During the compression you lose a bit of quality from what the original in the studio has. It saves space and audio bandwidth too. There are methods to encode and compress the audio but retain all the information from the original studio mix. Some PS3 games have used LPCM lossless audio. The difference is really staggering with the right system to play it on. Until we get PC games using things like this, I don't know that I can believe this audio product built into a GPU will be anything vastly different than the audio solutions we have available in the marketplace today.
 

exar333

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more reverbs, better reverbs...... *snoore*

The only way this matters if it becomes the "norm" for the new Xbone, and PS4 games that get ported to PC.

If this crap can really take up 15%+ of your CPU, and instead you could offload it to your GPU, then its a good thing.

I have a feeling it takes 15% of A core (not all cores) 15%, who cares? Most folks have CPU performance to spare anyways. I need more GPU power...
 

Elixer

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OK...ok, we get it.
Your getting a "free" high-end 'sound card' with your 290x video card.

Thief does look nice though.
 

ShadowOfMyself

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LOL... Im all for good audio but this is not the place
1 hour is gone and new audio guys just keep coming... [redacted]

Nvidia must be laughing their asses off at this

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monstercameron

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if that were a movie I would watch the [redacted] outa it!

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wand3r3r

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So, I guess the $180 AR Powercolor PCS+7950 I ordered yesterday isn't something to regret right now, huh?

Some Firestrike compares:

tweak_dk_msi_gtx780_gaming_17_fullscreen.jpg


So the 290X is somewhere between GTX770 and GTX780.


R7 250- 1GB GDDR5, < $89, > 2000 in 3DMark Firestrike ~== your phone
R7 260X - 2GB GDDR5, $139, > 3700 in Firestrike ~== 7790/7850?
R9 270X, 2GB GDDR5, $199, > 5500 Firestrike ~== 7950
R9 280X - 3GB GDDR5, $299, > 6800 in Firestrike ~== 7970
R9-290 ?
R9-290X Battlefield 4 Edition limited quantities, available for pre-order starting October 3

The 270x at 5500 is at the 760 (~670, ~7950) levels imo.

So basically you might have bought tomorrows $200 card. (It may be slightly faster?)
 

wand3r3r

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I have a feeling it takes 15% of A core (not all cores) 15%, who cares? Most folks have CPU performance to spare anyways. I need more GPU power...

They needed something to bog down the GPU (like physx) to force an upgrade?
 

Grooveriding

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Thief looks awesome, I have been looking forward to that one. Just keep showing good games, forget the ramblings. :)
 

skipsneeky2

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OK...ok, we get it.
Your getting a "free" high-end 'sound card' with your 290x video card.

Thief does look nice though.

If i remember a video cards audio usually is delivered via hdmi right?Only once have i used a video cards audio and honestly it didn't work out all that well with nothing but issues....
 

cmdrdredd

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That was his point, you would have cared about it if it had an Nvidia badge.

No we wouldn't because I still haven't gotten an answer to my question. What does this do that a soundcard (there are many options) cannot when games are not using lossless audio.