AMD GF~7nm ; what got cancelled??

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PeterScott

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Because it'd be very expensive and might not be much better for gaming than current Vega. I could maybe see the Prosumer line (Frontier?), but I think Vega 20 is tailored for compute/HPC market (its basically current Vega 64 as far as typical GPU aspects - like shader count/CUs - with some specialized stuff, kinda like tensor cores in Volta/Turing) and I'm not sure those are features that would carryover well to consumer workloads like the ray-tracing stuff. Plus, again, it'd be very expensive (like possibly more expensive than Nvidia's RTX expensive and look how that's going over even with expected performance gains and big new features). It would hurt AMD's gaming credibility even further and Vega would become a total joke for average consumers.

Even if it's only 64 CUDAs, if they get that claimed 7nm 1.35x performance uplift, it should be competitive with GTX 2080 and if it includes some deep learning cores, all the better. Maybe AMD can offer their own DLSS competitor, or even use them to improve Raytracing.

If the improvements in 7nm density are real, it should be a significantly smaller die than TU104, and I only suggested it after yields/supply improves.

While costs/area are increasing at each process advance, cost/transistor is still decreasing at each node. Unless they are using significantly more transistors than TU104, then it should be a cheaper die than TU104.

Move it down market in steps: Radeon Instinct -> Frontier Edition -> Consumer version, as the production volume increases and the unit costs drop.
 

DrMrLordX

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Navi Server was pushed back not Navi consumer. Specifically, Navi Sever is Navi10 x2.
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That's the first I heard of "Navi Instinct". All I saw was Navi being pushed to late 2019/2020, which hinted at maybe a 2019 tapeout.

Sure you aren't making up that bit?