AMD FX-8150 shows up in Passmark CPU benchmark

[BlueBlazer]

Source >> PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

 

[tincart]

What a highly reputable benchmark!

 

[inf64]

BlueBlazer, I think it was posted in Fudzilla thread,but I might be wrong .
Anyhow ,this test loves more cores and/or SMT and scales almost perfectly with number of cores (compare 1090T and 955BE). 8150 is 37% faster ,if it ran at default, than 1100T @ stock. Pretty good IMO.

 

[BlueBlazer]

What a highly reputable benchmark!

Its one of those "nobody cares to use" benchmarks (perhaps due to flawed accuracy). Hardly even seen it in reviews at all. Just interesting to see that an AMD FX appears in that list.

BlueBlazer, I think it was posted in Fudzilla thread,but I might be wrong .
Anyhow ,this test loves more cores and/or SMT and scales almost perfectly with number of cores (compare 1090T and 955BE). 8150 is 37% faster ,if it ran at default, than 1100T @ stock. Pretty good IMO.

Actually this is a weird benchmark. Looking at the CPU scores "all over the place". The Xeon E3-1280 (which has Core i7 2700K clock speeds) is ranked below Core i7 2600 (which is supposedly slower), while Core i7 970 (6-cores) is ranked below Core i7 2600K. Why is Core i7 2600K higher than Core i7 2600? There's also that Phenom II X6 1100T ranked below Core i5 2500 and 2500K (which should not be in highly multi-threaded workloads, we can see that the Phenom II X6 is always faster than Core i5 2500 and 2500K in wPrime and Cinebench examples). :hmm:

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

LOL, PassMark.

 

[996GT2]

Why does i7-2600K score 1000 points higher than i7-2600 when they are exactly the same performance @ stock?

 

[max347]

Why does i7-2600K score 1000 points higher than i7-2600 when they are exactly the same performance @ stock?

This was my first thought as well

 

[classy]

If you look at the chart through the link, there is also an AMD 6 core listed . Slightly faster the 1100T. The chart of scores is highly unreliable though. How does a 2600 score lower than a 2600K? The 8150 score looks good though. This is is going to be a very fast processor. It won't be the fastest, but it certainly will not be a bad choice for a new build. It really is a shame that AMD as a company when it comes to executing bringing a product to market is just so poor.

 

[Schmide]

Because it's price vs performance, which ironically the 8150's final cost has yet to be revealed.

Note: Last time I looked at Passmark, they still had a graphics bench that looked circa 1999. I don't feel like checking.

 

[classy]

Those higher 2600 scores are from when its overclocked

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/overclocked_cpus.html

 

[tincart]

Those higher 2600 scores are from when its overclocked

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/overclocked_cpus.html

No they are not. The overclocked page shows the 2600K scoring 11364. The page linked to by the OP shows the 2600K getting 9962.

 

[classy]

No they are not. The overclocked page shows the 2600K scoring 11364. The page linked to by the OP shows the 2600K getting 9962.

You know you are right. Hmmm wonder why they are so different then.................

 

[NostaSeronx]

Clock to clock
All hardware similar
4GB of RAM
570GTX

AMD FX is in the red(is bad) in 2d graphics, 3d graphics, and memory

i7 950 w/o hyperthreading and i7 2600K has a 70MHz advantage

 

[Arkaign]

Passmark is about as reliable as WEI. All we can really do is bear down until Anand/etc get the real tests out.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Passmark is about as reliable as WEI. All we can really do is bear down until Anand/etc get the real tests out.

Integer(Integer Math Test)
32-bit and 64-bit addition, subtraction, multiplication and division using integer variables.
Floating Point(Floating Point Math Test)
32-bit and 64-bit addition, subtraction, multiplication and division using floating point variables.
Find Prime numbers
Finds prime numbers, because the frequency of which prime numbers are found reduces the higher you go this test resets back to the beginning every after 150,000 values checked to keep the test scaling linearly with CPU speed.
Multimedia Instructions(SSE)
128-bit SSE operations such as addition, subtraction and multiplication.
Compression
The Compression test uses an Adaptive encoding algorithm based on source code from Ian H. Witten, Radford M. Neal, and John G. Cleary in an article called “Arithmetic Coding for Data Compression”. The system uses a model which maintains the probability of each symbol being the next encoded. It reports a compression rate of 363% for English text, which is slightly better than the Huffman method. This test reports its results in Kbytes/Sec compressed.
Encryption
The encryption test uses the Blowfish enciphering algorithm. It is based on the C implementation by Paul Kocher. Data is enciphered using a 16byte key in blocks of 4 KB. The test reports in Kbytes/Sec.
Physics
Physics simulation test using the Tokamak Physics Engine. See the Advance Visualized Physics Test for a visual representation of what is going on. Repeats the first second of the simulation as many times as possible within the test duration.
Random String Sorting
Sorts an array of 100,000 random strings each 25 characters long. Repeats this sorting as many times as possible within the test duration.

 

[Idontcare]

Clock to clock
All hardware similar
4GB of RAM
570GTX

AMD FX is in the red(is bad) in 2d graphics, 3d graphics, and memory

i7 950 w/o hyperthreading and i7 2600K has a 70MHz advantage

Oh man, this has me excited :thumbsup: If this is the 8150, can't wait for the 8170!

This is exactly what AMD needed, and us customers.

 

[BlueBlazer]

Oh man, this has me excited :thumbsup: If this is the 8150, can't wait for the 8170!

This is exactly what AMD needed, and us customers.

I'm beginning to see the reason for the weirdness in Passmark results. One of the benchmarks rely on ancient x87 (floating point) which has been not been further developed/endorsed by Intel since Pentium4 (while it seems AMD is still strong with this legacy instructions). Another is that benchmark measuring integer performance which has been Intel's strong point in IPC jump from Conroe. Then there's the SSE performance, which AMD is still subpar compared to Intel? Some of these may explain the way the CPUs are ranked. :hmm:

Passmark is about as reliable as WEI. All we can really do is bear down until Anand/etc get the real tests out.

Yes, we need real numbers from real world applications and games, as well as synthethics with consistently reproduceable results. :thumbsup:

 

[Redshirt 24]

Okay, where'd that set/picture come from? I'm still in don't-believe-a-damn-thing mode, even though that seems to put the FX-8150 within striking distance of the 2600K (which I was hoping for from the outset)...

 

[Idontcare]

Okay, where'd that set/picture come from? I'm still in don't-believe-a-damn-thing mode, even though that seems to put the FX-8150 within striking distance of the 2600K (which I was hoping for from the outset)...

JFAMD has said time and time again that we are fools if we don't believe in everything and anything that appears to look like a bulldozer benchmark bandied about on teh intarwebz.

We must listen to his voice of reason and believe these benchmarks!

(Errr, I might have that wrong, I forget sometimes )

 

[Arachnotronic]

I think I might actually get an 8150 since I'm sitting on some disposable cash. Can't wait!

 

[T_Yamamoto]

i might go with AMD as well...depending on the cost

 

[KingstonU]

Less than 300 hours till the currently rumored release date! lol

 

[Redshirt 24]

JFAMD has said time and time again that we are fools if we don't believe in everything and anything that appears to look like a bulldozer benchmark bandied about on teh intarwebz.

We must listen to his voice of reason and believe these benchmarks!

(Errr, I might have that wrong, I forget sometimes )

I see what you did there. :thumbsup:

Honestly, I don't have a problem with that (well, the actual) stance. At this point I want final silicon benchmarks just to shut everybody up. Either way. (Guest British Narrator: "He says this knowing full well it will not, but he chooses to believe the lie.") If it fails, fine, it fails. If it at least makes the nebulous goal they were aiming for, that's fine too. But for God's sake someone give us some reliable data from a reliable source so we can move on...

 

[BlueBlazer]

Okay, where'd that set/picture come from? I'm still in don't-believe-a-damn-thing mode, even though that seems to put the FX-8150 within striking distance of the 2600K (which I was hoping for from the outset)...

You may want to wait for the proper reviews first. On a side note, the poor integer and SSE performance may show up in games (just as it happened during K8 versus Conroe days). And that was the hint we got from CanardPC's upcoming review. :hmm:

JFAMD has said time and time again that we are fools if we don't believe in everything and anything that appears to look like a bulldozer benchmark bandied about on teh intarwebz.

We must listen to his voice of reason and believe these benchmarks!

(Errr, I might have that wrong, I forget sometimes )

JFAMD was telling us not to believe everything we see on the internet, and tries to spin off most of these leaks as fakes (which incidentally had gotten to quite a number gullible OCN folks including the mods). Of course he never denies or point out at which are the fakes (or which ones are real).

 

[Arkaign]

Integer(Integer Math Test)
32-bit and 64-bit addition, subtraction, multiplication and division using integer variables.
Floating Point(Floating Point Math Test)
32-bit and 64-bit addition, subtraction, multiplication and division using floating point variables.
Find Prime numbers
Finds prime numbers, because the frequency of which prime numbers are found reduces the higher you go this test resets back to the beginning every after 150,000 values checked to keep the test scaling linearly with CPU speed.
Multimedia Instructions(SSE)
128-bit SSE operations such as addition, subtraction and multiplication.
Compression
The Compression test uses an Adaptive encoding algorithm based on source code from Ian H. Witten, Radford M. Neal, and John G. Cleary in an article called “Arithmetic Coding for Data Compression”. The system uses a model which maintains the probability of each symbol being the next encoded. It reports a compression rate of 363% for English text, which is slightly better than the Huffman method. This test reports its results in Kbytes/Sec compressed.
Encryption
The encryption test uses the Blowfish enciphering algorithm. It is based on the C implementation by Paul Kocher. Data is enciphered using a 16byte key in blocks of 4 KB. The test reports in Kbytes/Sec.
Physics
Physics simulation test using the Tokamak Physics Engine. See the Advance Visualized Physics Test for a visual representation of what is going on. Repeats the first second of the simulation as many times as possible within the test duration.
Random String Sorting
Sorts an array of 100,000 random strings each 25 characters long. Repeats this sorting as many times as possible within the test duration.

Wall of text not helpful. The problems with Passmark are the inconsistency of allowing random contributions to the lists. If it were Anand or any other credible person performing the PM tests, it would be much more believeable.

As it is though, it's just a big senseless mess of chaos. It's okay in the most absolutely general of terms, but it's about as useful as WEI in the big picture.