AMD FX-57

[Makaveli]

Not all E6 cores are EE ones, also pretty sure all the EE cores are only dualcore and not single core.

 

[Mucker]

I don't know Mak, if you look at the AMD Compare the E4 is 1.35/1.40v and the E6 is 1.35.....

 

[Makaveli]

Very true, but if u look at your same links check out the thermal Power.

the EE chips highest thermal power is 65w and lower.

Anything above that is not a EE chip but a standard one.

Also my Opteron 146 is a 1.35v/E4 chip.

 

[Mucker]

Aye

 

[DasFox]

Where's this EE chip at 65W? Those links Mukcer posted for the AMDs are both 85w.

So we're saying the 3700+ is a better more efficent chip?

ALOHA

 

[DasFox]

Ahh here's a FX-55 at NewEgg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103527

Not to bad a deal either.

I'll look at PriceGrabber and ewiz and see if there's a better deal on it.

 

[Mucker]

No the 3700 and 4000 are both 89 watters whether they are E4 (BN) or E6 (CF). There will be imperceptible differences. I'd go with the E6 as it is newer technology with fixes over the BN and most likely a better memory controller.....

 

[Mucker]

Just say no to high priced AMD cpu's, they don't make a bit of sense. If you want a good solid FX like AMD cpu, look no further than the Opteron 146, probably the best bang for buck single core next to that 3700+ CF....

 

[DasFox]

Originally posted by: Mucker
No the 3700 and 4000 are both 89 watters whether they are E4 (BN) or E6 (CF). There will be imperceptible differences. I'd go with the E6 as it is newer technology with fixes over the BN and most likely a better memory controller.....

Ahh ok, let me know if you find a E6 4000+ CF, ewiz doesn't have one.

THANKS

 

[DasFox]

What is the differences between a AMD 64 and Opteron? I thought Opterons were for server applications, or business solutions.

Personally I've never looked at Opterons before, or considered them.

THANKS

 

[XBoxLPU]

Stock E6400 is right on par with a FX 62

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2802

But anyway.. the 3700+ is very nice

 

[DasFox]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
Stock E6400 is right on par with a FX 62

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2802

But anyway.. the 3700+ is very nice

I don't CARE about Intel PLEASE read POSTS next time!

I said I just sold a X2 3800+ and that I have the box built and just need a CPU, I'm not going to buy a Intel.

Can someone whack this guy for me, but since he did mention the 3700+ we won't whack him as much, LMAO


BEND OVER AND FACE THE WRATH:

----> http://www.madkats.com/Queer/Street/Dor...Alley2001SLideShow/images/spanking.jpg

LMAO

ALOHA

P.S. I want A SOCKET 939 THAT'S ALL!

 

[DasFox]

Sheesh double post, forget this one, done in error!

 

[Makaveli]

here is a EE chip

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103733

but as I said previously they are only Dualcore , and apparently socket AM2 only!

 

[DasFox]

Originally posted by: Makaveli
here is a EE chip

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103733

but as I said previously they are only Dualcore , and apparently socket AM2 only!

I Have A Socket 939 Board

Does anyone know where I can find a 4000+ CF?

THANKS

 

[Mucker]

I checked froogle but it doesn't seem to be for sale anywhere.

You may want to buy this 146 Opteron from Akahai: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=45&threadid=1413412&enterthread=y

CACJE 0605 GPMW

It is my old chip I sold to him about 2 months ago. I guess he didn't want it. It ran 2750 MHz for me and wasn't abused. I am sure it's still great with less than 6 months of use. I don't think he even used it more than 2 weeks. $90 shipped......

 

[DasFox]

Muker I thought Opeteron where more for the server/workstation market and the AMD Athlon 64 would be better for gaming/multimedia?

THANKS

 

[DasFox]

Mucker personall I'm not going to squabble over $30, especially if I can get retail. I found this 3800+ retail

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=A64-38BWBX

And it says E6 stepping so that would be a CF yes?

Thing is I can get cheaper shipping at ZipZoomFly since I live in Hawaii:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80721-5

But at ZipZoomFly I don't know the stepping and I'm sure I won't be able to call them and get it, SO if ewiz lists the 3800 as E6 stepping, it's a sure bet?

Darn the only thing the 3800 has a smaller L2 cache of 512

THANKS

 

[DasFox]

Ok here is the 3700+ on NewEgg, I'd rather take the bigger L2 Cache.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103622

But I wonder if NewEgg is smart enough to tell us what stepping this is? Hmmm

Ahhhh the Model Shows as ----> ADA3700CFBOX - Retail

So CFBOX? It would then be a CF (Stepping E6)?

THANKS

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven

Originally posted by: DasFox
Well, the thing is guys I already have a mobo and the box built, I had the CPU before, but I sold it off to upgrade, this is for my gaming rig in my sig, " Das' GameRig " This CPU is only going to be used for gaming, that is why I was considering the FX-57 and going single core over dual core, which is what I had before a X2 3800+. I don't see the need for dual core in gamin yet.

So what are we saying the FX-57 sucks for now, old technology at this point and still to high a price?

THANKS

i've fx-57 OC'd 3.6 GHz on air (chilled air though) so if you OC the fx-57 is still pretty good.

You'd still have to kick it up another 1ghz or more to compete with the single threaded performance of my CPU at its current speed

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: lopri
How about a multiplier-unlocked E6400 vs a plain E6600? Do you see the logic now?

Edit: By no means I accept it as a righteous. As I stated in my first post, I am not fond of AMD/Intel's practice, creating artificial demand with multipliers. (You want unlocked CPUs? Pay $1K!)

Yeah well, get a motherboard worth a damn and you can overclock and it doesn't matter then.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: DasFox

Originally posted by: aka1nas
That's still a pretty crummy deal. I wouldn't pay that much for a CPU that wasn't dual-core.

aka1nas I'm talking gaming!

Well the thing is I don't need dual core, this is just for my gaming rig, 100% pure nothing but gaming, and I do mean that I use this box ONLY for gaming.

I mean SLI using MS Office, LOL

And from the way I see it dual core and gaming is quite a long way off. Dual core and gaming seems a bit pointless for now.

ALOHA

P.S. I just sold a X2 3800+, I didn't see any benefit for gaming.

WHy not just get dual core anyway!? you can't tell me it'll never be used (quake4, oblivion already use both cores).

 

[DasFox]

Well the dual core might be used somewhat, but is it really making a difference? And then for the few games that have some support for it, the next question. Is it really worth spending the extra on it?

And last does dual core also bring about instability in some games that don't support this that well, or at all?

Personally for me the last one was the biggie, gaming stability seemed to take a hit at times.

For gaming single core is without a doubt the safest bet at present.

ALOHA

 

[DrMrLordX]

Um, well you're not really talking about "spending extra" on dual cores when comparing them to a FX-57. As has already been mentioned in this thread, even one core of a Core 2 Duo chip will spank a FX-57, and the Core 2 Duo will frequently reach higher clock speeds. You can do this with a Core 2 Duo that will retail for less than the FX-57, too.

As far as instability in games goes, the only widely-reported problems were with X2s and Opterons, but those problems can be fixed easily with the right driver and hotfix. It's not an issue.

Personally I wouldn't look at a single-core CPU for anything at this point, especially not in the $400-range.

 

[DasFox]

Oh well on a note for the FX, I've scrubbed that, I'm not buying any FX CPUS, it's a waste.

I'm looking at the 3700+ Retail which is $98, I think that is one tough deal to beat, and I'm thinking at this point to go cheap and single core, and just hang onto money when something else comes around after the AM2 and move next into this system. I had a X2 3800 it seemed pretty good, but I'm not sure for gaming if the dual cores was really needed.

ALOHA