AMD facing 20% revenue decline

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
That explains why China is building all those nuclear power plants.

 

[cyberkost]

How much of the new AMD business is in CPUs and how much is in chipset & video? Q2 may turn out to be ok (a relative Ok, of course) for them b/c of video & chipsets, which will hopefully make them last till K10 is out. There are also all those server-builders who're somewhat hooked on Opterons ... It's not going to be pretty, but if K10 is what people thing it is, AMD is going to survive for a while. (Also, if AMD dies Intel will suddenly be a subject to a whole lot more regulation. I think they're concious of that).

 

[abovewood]

Two weeks ago, I helped my supervisor at the University to pick C2D instead of Pentium D for 30 Dells -- don't like wasting energy.

 

[JoKeRr]

hm, that's interesting..I'm in University in Canada (aka college in states), and the Math & Stats dept just bought about 50 new computers for the cluster, all C2D Dell Optiplex workstations, they're small (roughly the size of 15'' laptop, and 3 times thicker). Too bad Matlab is not installed on those systems. Other cluster with Celey systems simply struggle with Matlab. Then again, Matlab was coded in Java.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Did the netburst line all ended up EOL like a long time ago? the rest of inventory going to that deal in china?

C2D only accounts for about 40% of Intel's current production...
However, Netburst is due to be EOL by the end of summer I believe.

Man for a guy with Millions LOL . Your surely a fuuny type.

The Bleeding for AMD hasn't even begun. K10 won't stop the bleeding as Penryn will slap it around on the desktop . On the DP Intel will still win . With Tigerton MP will go to Intel also . As for the laptops Penryn at 3ghz will destoy anything AMD can through at it.

As for Market share its really starting to look bad. Here's a link. You have been telling people to hang on or buy AMD since the $25 mark . Know way did you make that kind of $$$. Giving out bad advice on investing is really bad .

I adviced people to sell AMD @ $39.52. I didn't have any shares of AMD at the time . But I did short it at that price. 5,000 shares. I haven't sold the shorts yet. My target price is $7.00.

I will bet you any amount I hit my target price.

Anyone want to make $$$ on AMD right now sell now buy back latter. If you don't own it Short it.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker...AP&Date=20070409&ID=6719859&Symbol=AMD

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Did the netburst line all ended up EOL like a long time ago? the rest of inventory going to that deal in china?

C2D only accounts for about 40% of Intel's current production...
However, Netburst is due to be EOL by the end of summer I believe.

Man for a guy with Millions LOL . Your surely a fuuny type.

The Bleeding for AMD hasn't even begun. K10 won't stop the bleeding as Penryn will slap it around on the desktop . On the DP Intel will still win . With Tigerton MP will go to Intel also . As for the laptops Penryn at 3ghz will destoy anything AMD can through at it.

As for Market share its really starting to look bad. Here's a link. You have been telling people to hang on or buy AMD since the $25 mark . Know way did you make that kind of $$$. Giving out bad advice on investing is really bad .

I adviced people to sell AMD @ $39.52. I didn't have any shares of AMD at the time . But I did short it at that price. 5,000 shares. I haven't sold the shorts yet. My target price is $7.00.

I will bet you any amount I hit my target price.

Anyone want to make $$$ on AMD right now sell now buy back latter. If you don't own it Short it.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker...AP&Date=20070409&ID=6719859&Symbol=AMD

I highly doubt that someone that cant spell at a 7th grade level is into any kind of investing.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Did the netburst line all ended up EOL like a long time ago? the rest of inventory going to that deal in china?

C2D only accounts for about 40% of Intel's current production...
However, Netburst is due to be EOL by the end of summer I believe.

Man for a guy with Millions LOL . Your surely a fuuny type.

The Bleeding for AMD hasn't even begun. K10 won't stop the bleeding as Penryn will slap it around on the desktop . On the DP Intel will still win . With Tigerton MP will go to Intel also . As for the laptops Penryn at 3ghz will destoy anything AMD can through at it.

As for Market share its really starting to look bad. Here's a link. You have been telling people to hang on or buy AMD since the $25 mark . Know way did you make that kind of $$$. Giving out bad advice on investing is really bad .

I adviced people to sell AMD @ $39.52. I didn't have any shares of AMD at the time . But I did short it at that price. 5,000 shares. I haven't sold the shorts yet. My target price is $7.00.

I will bet you any amount I hit my target price.

Anyone want to make $$$ on AMD right now sell now buy back latter. If you don't own it Short it.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker...AP&Date=20070409&ID=6719859&Symbol=AMD

I highly doubt that someone that cant spell at a 7th grade level is into any kind of investing.

His spelling aside he makes some good points. AMD is in a very poor cash position and is still projecting losses and cash shortfalls with no end in sight. But the market is a funny thing... the price could go up just because so many people expect it to tank.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Did the netburst line all ended up EOL like a long time ago? the rest of inventory going to that deal in china?

C2D only accounts for about 40% of Intel's current production...
However, Netburst is due to be EOL by the end of summer I believe.

Man for a guy with Millions LOL . Your surely a fuuny type.

The Bleeding for AMD hasn't even begun. K10 won't stop the bleeding as Penryn will slap it around on the desktop . On the DP Intel will still win . With Tigerton MP will go to Intel also . As for the laptops Penryn at 3ghz will destoy anything AMD can through at it.

As for Market share its really starting to look bad. Here's a link. You have been telling people to hang on or buy AMD since the $25 mark . Know way did you make that kind of $$$. Giving out bad advice on investing is really bad .

I adviced people to sell AMD @ $39.52. I didn't have any shares of AMD at the time . But I did short it at that price. 5,000 shares. I haven't sold the shorts yet. My target price is $7.00.

I will bet you any amount I hit my target price.

Anyone want to make $$$ on AMD right now sell now buy back latter. If you don't own it Short it.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker...AP&Date=20070409&ID=6719859&Symbol=AMD

I highly doubt that someone that cant spell at a 7th grade level is into any kind of investing.

What spelling got to do with investing smart guy. Your young I am sure because spelling and grammer is a tool used by Kids to put down others.

Won't work with me . LOl . I see you said nothing about the millions viditor made. LOL .

I know it hurts you kid that your hero AMD was a 1 shot cpu company they had there time in the sun but its over get over it.

There is a big differance between fanboy ranting. Than giving out bad investment advice .

Viditor is giving out poor investment advice . IF anyone listens it would hurt way more than being pawned on hardware debates. Having your pocket picked is much harder to take.

Viditor is constantly saying things that are False. Example Penryn is nothing more than a simple die shrink.

High K and metal gates along with added logic is much more than a simple die shrink.

You find a post were I said something that isn't true .

 

[zsdersw]

I'd suggest fixing the spelling and grammar. If you want people to take you seriously, you have to present yourself seriously. If you truly are who you say you are, you've had at least one job interview or filled out at least one job application. How does bad spelling/grammar look on a resumé or application? While the boards here on AnandTech are clearly not of the seriousness of a job interview or application, you still must be taken seriously by others if you want to get your point across. Elementary-school spelling and grammar isn't going to cut it.

If you don't care about the criticism of your spelling/grammar, you shouldn't respond to those criticisms.

 

[superHARD]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
I would think Intel should be having more inventory problems. Who's buying all those crappy Pentiums that Intel is still making?

they still make them?...lol

 

[superHARD]

Originally posted by: ectx
... Don't beleive the analysts... I sold my NVDA when all analysts were down on them at ~ 8.5 (before split); now it is at ~31.... Silly me.

Of course, I braved against the analysts' negative sentiment and elected to convert my ATI share to AMD last Decemeber. The price came down sigificantly and I finally gave in and sold my AMD.

.... Unfortunately I think this time the analysts may be right.

I do hope to see AMD turn this around but I have not seen the light at the end of the tunnel yet. I still think AMD's current line to be solid (this is why I bet on them last December) but they cannot command the premium prices after Intel C2D was released.

... Well I will not trust the analysts. I think I'd rather set a poll at several forums and figure out if a tech company would do well

Ther is only one analyst I pay attention to...he hosts MM...

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: zsdersw
I'd suggest fixing the spelling and grammar. If you want people to take you seriously, you have to present yourself seriously. If you truly are who you say you are, you've had at least one job interview or filled out at least one job application. How does bad spelling/grammar look on a resumé or application? While the boards here on AnandTech are clearly not of the seriousness of a job interview or application, you still must be taken seriously by others if you want to get your point across. Elementary-school spelling and grammar isn't going to cut it.

If you don't care about the criticism of your spelling/grammar, you shouldn't respond to those criticisms.

Ya. I could go back and change Know to no or repair poor spelling. There would be little reason to do so however.

I should respond to such criticism. You don't know me. I may be elderly and suffer short term memory lose(lost). I am elderly but I don't believe it has anything to do with short term memory lose(lost) . Point is you don't know that.

In a online forum were peoples really don't know one another. Is it actually proper to attack a persons bad spelling grammer. I think not .

As far as bad spelling grammer goes I am a little surprized that you are ignorant enough to subscribe to the idea that this is a valid reason as you say. To be taken seriously.

I would sugjest to you that is pure BS. Its almost as bad as calling people fags or using the N word.

I am sure Albert Eienstien would laugh at your prejudicial statement. I have heard that the American education system is in bad need of repair and you confirm that belief with your statement. The young people today aren't very bright. But I am sure spelling is more than likely there strong suite. But after that it goes to sh-it in a basket real fast.

Morality and having the will to endeavor to do their best at whatever their chosen field may be. The colleges of today are more interested in putting out good far left liberials than they are in putting out quality higher educated moral young men and women.

 

[zsdersw]

The fact of the matter is that both good spelling/grammar and the things you talked about in your long and winding diatribe are important. You need to know what you're talking about *and* have good spelling/grammar. Both are required to not only succeed in life, but to be taken seriously in every personal or professional endeavor.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Complete and utter nonsense. I have to tell you something . In the wizard of oz. The wizard was a man hiding behind a curtain. Much like your hiding behind poor grammer and spelling as a prerequisite of showing intelligence or success.

In high school I was a D student in english and my spelling was= to that grade.

In MATH, Science and social studies(history) I carried a 3.8 average all the way threw high school. That was achieved while working fulltime at night.

Many people said I was only lucky when I bought MS. at $5 a share. Or when I bought Intels first issues. Not true it was because I seen it was the future.

I did however luck out when I bought Home shopping center back in 1986 when it got caught in a short squeze. Something like what happened yesterday with AMD stock but multiply the results by 1000x. That was luck. But I have always had good luck or is it luck???

 

[zsdersw]

Good for you, but you cannot dismiss the importance of spelling and grammar just because you got by without them. I'm talking about most people in most professions. You're talking about your own experience.

I will maintain, though, that spelling and grammar are important here and everywhere else. You can disagree with me all you want. You have as much of a right to be wrong as anyone else.

 

[zsdersw]

One more thing: you can be old and "wise" and still be full of sh!t.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I have heard that the American education system is in bad need of repair and you confirm that belief with your statement.

The young people today aren't very bright. But I am sure spelling is more than likely there strong suite. But after that it goes to sh-it in a basket real fast.

You are in no position to be critisizing the current condition of America's educational system or its students. The young people of today are, from my experience, VERY intelligent. Blithely saying that "young people today aren't very bright" sounds like a sour grapes comment given your sorely deficient spelling and grammar skills.

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Morality and having the will to endeavor to do their best at whatever their chosen field may be. The colleges of today are more interested in putting out good far left liberials than they are in putting out quality higher educated moral young men and women.

Teaching "morality" and "the will to endeavor to do their best" is something that should be instilled at home and is not the responsibility of the school system.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: zsdersw
One more thing: you can be old and "wise" and still be full of sh!t.

True that! You can also be young and a arrant fool and be full of sh!t:light:

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I have heard that the American education system is in bad need of repair and you confirm that belief with your statement.

The young people today aren't very bright. But I am sure spelling is more than likely there strong suite. But after that it goes to sh-it in a basket real fast.

You are in no position to be critisizing the current condition of America's educational system or its students. The young people of today are, from my experience, VERY intelligent. Blithely saying that "young people today aren't very bright" sounds like a sour grapes comment given your sorely deficient spelling and grammar skills.

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Morality and having the will to endeavor to do their best at whatever their chosen field may be. The colleges of today are more interested in putting out good far left liberials than they are in putting out quality higher educated moral young men and women.

Teaching "morality" and "the will to endeavor to do their best" is something that should be instilled at home and is not the responsibility of the school system.

True Craig it should be tought at home. Many of us do this well. But when the school systems allow everthing we teach at home to be torn apart I know were the fault is. Corpereal punhishment should be allowed in the school system and at HOME but we know the academic community has destoyed that.

The liberial teachers at college have brought america to her knees.

They were teaching my kids its alright to experiment with unnatural sex(gay). Good thing my kids were smarter than that.

If you don't believe in God I guess its alright LOL . But than if their is no God were no higher than a flea on the evolutionary scale. Fact is were worse as were destroyng this planet and everthing on it.

So don't preach about intelligents to me. Millions of young people out there are doing illegal drugs. Whats worse is millions more are doing prescribed drugs from legal drug pushers.

You ever try to read a doctors prescription . Their illegible. So what if the spelling is correct if you can't read it.
250,000 americans die every year because of Doctors mistakes. These are suppose to be are finest minds LOL.
Lawyers I won't even go near what they have done to this country. What a joke! You can take your higher education and shove it were the sun doesn't shine.

I put both my kids threw college. Both said it was fun . Both did well. Both said that they really didn't learn much more than they already knew but they got the piece of paper saying the were educated LOL.

Whats a school teacher? Nothing more than a person who couldn't make it in the field they choose so the revert to teaching because they are flunkies.

Thats what I see and I am not alone . Flunkies teaching flunkies. Things have changed a lot in the last 50 years and its all down hill.

 

[Creig]

Wow.

 

[zsdersw]

Much of what you ranted about, Nemesis 1, has nothing to do with whatever point you were perhaps trying to make. That's where your near-failing grades in English and Spelling shine through. You apparently cannot make your point cleanly, clearly, tie your thoughts together in a coherent form, and express them in an understandable fashion.

 

[imported_Questar]

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Did the netburst line all ended up EOL like a long time ago? the rest of inventory going to that deal in china?

C2D only accounts for about 40% of Intel's current production...
However, Netburst is due to be EOL by the end of summer I believe.

Had to pipe up here. According to today's conference call, essentially everything is Core today.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I jumped ship and helped intel today by buying a c2d e6400 to replace my opty. My corsair xms is failing and I'm not buying more ddr when ddr2 is the current standard. So for a few bucks more I've replaced my core components. I went with the msi p6n sli platinum mb as abit seems to be having too many problems over there since they were bought out.