AMD doesnt make "the list"

[NakaNaka]

Fortune came out with the worlds most admired companies. In the Computer category, Intel 1 Microsoft 3 AMD doesn't make the list (the list was 16 companies)

:|

 

[Vegito]

can't beat them all

 

[piku]

But they should beat Intel.

 

[Howard]

LOL, brainwashed by Intel.

 

[Henry Kuo]

intel must have spent a lot of money in that one.

 

[comicbookguy]

No sh!t man, if those guys over there have been keeping up with the cpu market, they would see that Intel is falling behind.....what other companies were on the list?

 

[NakaNaka]

1. Intel
2. Sun
3. Microsoft
4. Texas Instruments
5. EMC
6. HP
7. Oracle
8. Dell
9. IBM (i think this is too low for them)
10. Gateway
11. Apple
12. Compaq
13. Fujitsu
14. Seagate Technology
15. Quantum
16. NCR

 

[Mem]

If AMD keep growing they will be near the top of that list.

 

[hans007]

i dont get how intel is 1. microsoft i respect more than intel. There is a page out there for intel workers i've seen saying how bad it is to work there. and NCR? no AMD but there is an NCR, i guess most of the fortune people are thinking like for the last 10 years, 8 of which amd sucked.

 

[Sephiroth_IX]

IBM spanks the hell out of Texas Instruments and many of the other Top 7 players. What a shame.

Either way, Intel has fscked up so hard in the last 6 months i dont know what to say... There is no way that someone with this many problems and pure market errors should be #1. What a disgrace.

 

[gyroscope]

dell above ibm? haha.. pure comedy.

 

[Patriot]

You guys don't seem to realize that this was a poll of MOST ADMIRED companies, not anyhting else. Is it really that surprising that lots of people admire the biggest chip maker in the world?

As for AMD, lets note forget that there were losing money until Q4 '99. Just because they have had a good year may earn them respect, but not admiration.

 

[Vegito]

That list should be most likely to FAIL... but you don't want AMD on that list....

 

[Patriot]

Oh yeah, every company on teh list looks like it is about to go under... What an intelligent statement...:disgust:

 

[hans007]

yeah i'd say about half could go under any day now, gateway being one of them. I dont get how fujitsu is on there. They are big in europe though....

 

[Davegod75]

funny how whenever intel stock goes down amd's does. intel does bad yet amd does good and amd's stock still goes down. Stupid invest firms no nothing and are just B#$^%* to Intel. AMD should definitely beat chipzilla on that list.

 

[Midnight Rambler]

You guys are way underinformed, except for Patriot. I own both AMD and INTC very long term, follow them closely. And even if you don't know the companies inside out that well, all you'd have to do would be read the financial news regularly to know of at least several downgrades of AMD, in addition to INTC. In fact, the count was about 3x as many "downs" for AMD. Shoot, just look at Wednesday's trading BEFORE the Intel warning - AMD was down 20+ %, Intel was down ~4%.

Open your eyes - the whole market is going down. Not because of a few flubs by Intel lately, but because of the EURO valuation. The "lower demand warning" is just double-speak by the anal-ysts to say basically the same thing (ie. the lower EURO value vs. the dollar).

If I had to buy INTC or AMD at this point, it's a no brainer. INTC all the way. Ignore the CPU portion of their business, they have so many other things on the table (and which are not experiencing the problems like their CPU business ). DSP, StrongARM and Bluetooth, majorly growing in servers, likewise in hosting, the list goes on. Not to mention their holdings in other companies. Intel can make as much off their investments in a quarter as AMD can off their sales.

Hate Intel all you want, I could care less, but don't let your hate obscure reality. And BTW, welcome to 1987 all over again ...

 

[403Forbidden]

Midnight,

can you expand on the 1987 comment?

 

[Sunner]

Admired?
Who the hell admires Microsoft cept for people who love nothing but money?

I can agree on Sun, they should score high on that list, and IBM as well.

But what the hell is fijutsu(Ok I dont know how to spell that, crappy name anyway so sue me) doing on that list?

 

[Mday]

despite how much we admire and love amd and their k7 family of processors, intel is FREAKIN HUGE!!!

 

[ColdTech]

I think whoever wrote that list got slipped 1 of the only 3 working 1.13 ghz P3

How Can a company be admired when they release a product that cant be found than release a product & have to recall it because it is crap.

 

[Vegito]

Lets see.. INTC 52wk high 75.81 (8/28/2000), last trade was around 48, 75.81 - 48 = 28 (rounding up) = 36% DOWN
AMD 52wk high (6-5-2000) 48.5 around last, 23 15/16 = 24.5625 - down 50%..

Apple, down almost 50% also, dell, knocked off, etc.etc.. they won't go under but this is EXCELLENT price.

 

[Patriot]

<< How Can a company be admired when they release a product that cant be found than release a product &amp; have to recall it because it is crap. >>


You know, this crap about intel and the recall is some of the most mind-numbing, misinformed, self-deluted crap posted on the internet in the last month. Simply because intel recalled a processor doesn't mean that all their other processors are now garbage! You can't just throw away 20 years of quality products because of one bad one. Now I realize that this is the golden egg that all of you AMD slutpuppies have been waiting for, but you know what? IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING!! If anything, Intel should be praised for admitting that they screwed up by ramping up the speeds that high adn recalling the chips rather than letting them get into circulation. Sheesh, take a reality pill would you?

 

[AndrewR]

Further, Intel chipsets and motherboards are everywhere along with networking equipment, PC cameras, and other products. The end-all-be-all of Intel is not the 1.13GHz PIII.

It is not so hard to imagine people admiring a company that was $8 billion in revenue every quarter with a return of 47 cents per share.

Tell me -- does AMD match that?

These are investors we're talking about here, not computer geeks. They admire stock valuation, investment returns, revenue, profit, etc. If Intel has the crappiest processor on the planet, but it sells for 100% profit at a brisk pace, would they care that AMD had a better processor? Nope.

As is mentioned above, AMD's stock has gone down because of the future of the technology market (speculation that PC sales will continue to slow) as well as a general decline in stocks across the board. AMD may very well have the best small computer CPU's, but if no one is buying, it doesn't really matter.

 

[OS]

That's not what the stock market said today. Intel just broke the record for the largest single stock sell off in US history.