AMD demos Dual core chip.

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Are quad cpu machines for under 2000-3000 dollars comming fairly soon?


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[clarkey01]

Cant wait to see some benchies but dont be put off it the increase is little, software has to be written for dual core to get the best out of it.

 

[HappyCracker]

I think AMD made a lot of really good decisions when they made the original K7. Whether or not they had this in mind is something only they know. I'm excited to see what comes out of this dual core business. I bet those people with SMP boxen will be able to take fuller advantage of their capabilities.

 

[BW86]

o0ooh i cant wait

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: HappyCracker
I think AMD made a lot of really good decisions when they made the original K7. Whether or not they had this in mind is something only they know. I'm excited to see what comes out of this dual core business. I bet those people with SMP boxen will be able to take fuller advantage of their capabilities.

Well, one thing to remember about the K7 is that they didn't have a clue that Intel was going to do anything like the P4. They learned, though, and have been very pro-active with the K8.

 

[MichaelD]

*sigh*

There is no doubt that the Opteron kicks @ss. There's also no doubt that the Opteron is hideously expensive and that AMD has RAISED the prices on existing models about 5% over the past month.

I was going to build a dual Opteron rig; I was waiting for prices to drop, AT ALL. Even a little!!

After two months of waiting, they went up. :Q

I purchased some very cheap, low-voltage 1.6GHz Xeons that are well-known to overclock to 2.6GHz at STOCK voltage.

While I've yet to give it a go myself, others that have purchased the same CPUs report very happy results...a dual 2.6GHz rig for under $500. That's the price of one Opteron 246. No mobo. No memory. No OTHER CPU to complete that whole "duallie thing."

I'm just disappointed, that's all. Yes, a dual 246 rig will blow away a dual 2.6GHz Xeon rig...at about FIVE TIMES the price, it had better!

Sorry AMD, you screwed up. This is coming from someone who has FIVE rigs at home right now that they ALL run AMD CPUs.

 

[Cerb]

Comparing overclocking vs. stock...not a very good comparison. I do agree they are expensive at the low end. At the high end, they are very well priced against Xeons.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: Cerb
Comparing overclocking vs. stock...not a very good comparison. I do agree they are expensive at the low end. At the high end, they are very well priced against Xeons.

I understand your point as well.

I was basically trying to make a point that the cheapass Xeons I purchased for $60/ea will do 2.6GHz on the right motherboard, etc.

I know that 99% of the purchasers of these Enterprise-level CPUs don't know what overclocking is, let alone dream of doing it! I'm speaking from the minority point of view, i.e. "the PC Enthusiast."

 

[Cerb]

Yes, and it's definitely something to think about for any home user who wants the power of duallies, or to maximize the use of a single CPU. However, the enthusiant PoV is not part of chip pricing--except the P4 EE, but that's just for dumb ones, or who have too much money (If you can pay $1000 for a chip that is compettive with a $400 version, why not just go dually with the $600 Xeon counterpart?).

 

[batmanuel]

Also, that pair of Xeons are from a surplus warehouse. The only reason they are going for $120 a pair is that they needed to be liquidated. Perhaps because the Xeons are becoming an increasingly hard sell.

The high Opteron prices may be a bad thing for the enthusiast community, but they are a sign that the market recognizes the value of AMD's superior technology and is willing to pay a premium for it over the competing Intel technology. From my point of view, it is a good thing that AMD finally has a high margin product from which they can reap some strong profits, so that they can afford to keep cranking out the powerful low-margin parts that keep my computers fast and cheap (like the Sempron 3100+).

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: batmanuel
Also, that pair of Xeons are from a surplus warehouse. The only reason they are going for $120 a pair is that they needed to be liquidated. Perhaps because the Xeons are becoming an increasingly hard sell.

The high Opteron prices may be a bad thing for the enthusiast community, but they are a sign that the market recognizes the value of AMD's superior technology and is willing to pay a premium for it over the competing Intel technology. From my point of view, it is a good thing that AMD finally has a high margin product from which they can reap some strong profits, so that they can afford to keep cranking out the powerful low-margin parts that keep my computers fast and cheap (like the Sempron 3100+).

Hmm, good point. Hey, I WANT AMD to make bank; all my rigs are AMD and have been for years now. I only did this Xeon-thing b/c of the smokin' hot deal.

Competition benefits us all!! Besides, Intel is still Goliath and AMD is still David. Everytime AMD lets out a "meow" Intel releases like 34 different products to distract people from AMD stuff. This is good!!