AMD death watch

[Phokus]

Maybe AMD can go through some bankrupcy/restructuring.

 

[mmntech]

I hope AMD survives and starts turning out some decent CPUs. Been using them exclusively for my desktops for years. I've got nothing against Intel or nVidia but if AMD sunk, they'd have a monopoly over x86 CPUs and GPUs respectively. It would be very bad for the market and the hobby as a whole.

 

[theevilsharpie]

OCZ has loyal fans? WTF?

Yep, lots of them. You'd see them post more often, but their computers keep breaking for some reason

 

[Miramonti]

For the most part I've had good experiences with OCZ, the latest being a couple of ssd drives. Warranties have been honored (for some memory iirc) and all rebate submissions have been received.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I was thinking of getting an FM2 rig. One part just for fun, one part because it's new, and I like to play with new things, and one part just to support AMD's efforts on their new CPUs. Plus, you can get a quad-core (UNLOCKED, even!), with a nice GPU bolted onto the die, for CHEAP! Intel i3 pricing, for a quad-core, with better graphics than the i3.

 

[zinfamous]

Yep, lots of them. You'd see them post more often, but their computers keep breaking for some reason

I originally joined AT to figure out why my computer kept crashing while playing GW--turned out it was a bad OCZ DIMM.





(I actually don't mind them so much--CSR contacted through AT was very speedy in diagnosing and resolving the issue; I've had a good experience with a long-running PS with them, and a recent--now replaced--set of "black" memory :\)

 

[Exterous]

Intel's competition isn't AMD anymore.
It's ARM

:thumbsup: IMO thats whats going to kill AMD more than Intel. Worst market for PCs since 2001 and both HP and Dell trying to diversify themselves away from PC making while interest and money for small mobile devices is flowing. Neither Intel or AMD have any real product for the small mobile device market but at least Intel has the money to go after it

 

[Miramonti]

I originally joined AT to figure out why my computer kept crashing while playing GW--turned out it was a bad OCZ DIMM.





(I actually don't mind them so much--CSR contacted through AT was very speedy in diagnosing and resolving the issue; I've had a good experience with a long-running PS with them, and a recent--now replaced--set of "black" memory :\)

I think everyone gets bad dimms on occasion if you build lots of computers over the years, but no experience I've ever had with Ocz or others will every rival the hell I went thru with crucial's ballistix line a number of years ago.

 

[AmericasHigh5]

What would happen to the graphics card division if AMD kicks the bucket? I've been using ATi cards since I first started building PCs in the early 2000s and I don't want to stop now.

 

[techs]

What would happen to the graphics card division if AMD kicks the bucket? I've been using ATi cards since I first started building PCs in the early 2000s and I don't want to stop now.

Probably sold to Nvidia.

 

[pelov]

Probably sold to Nvidia.

I'm going to bet that Apple buys up a whole lot of AMD. Their graphics division would be a perfect fit for a lot of companies, but Apple's got the most money.

 

[techs]

I'm going to bet that Apple buys up a whole lot of AMD. Their graphics division would be a perfect fit for a lot of companies, but Apple's got the most money.

Hmm. That is a good theory.
Apple is currently planning to start making their own cpu's, according to a lot of websites, and they will need graphics technology.

 

[pelov]

Hmm. That is a good theory.
Apple is currently planning to start making their own cpu's, according to a lot of websites, and they will need graphics technology.

They're still using PowerVR for their GPUs. You'd figure that with the crazy amount of pixels they're powering that they're going to need very strong graphics IP. As you've said, they've already started to dabble in custom ARM cores of which Jim Keller was almost certainly a leading architect of, adding more engineers and AMD's best asset for a big lump of cash makes sense for both companies at this point, so long as AMD is able to keep pursuing their HSA shindig.

 

[jpiniero]

I'm going to bet that Apple buys up a whole lot of AMD. Their graphics division would be a perfect fit for a lot of companies, but Apple's got the most money.

AMD can't sell the GPU business unless they were willing to liquidate. It's too tied into their CPU products now. I could see Apple being interested however.

 

[lxskllr]

I think everyone gets bad dimms on occasion if you build lots of computers over the years, but no experience I've ever had with Ocz or others will every rival the hell I went thru with crucial's ballistix line a number of years ago.

I have a couple dead sticks of Crucial in a drawer. I never sent them back cause I'd just be getting more shitty Crucial ram in return. It wasn't worth the headache. I doubt I'll ever buy Crucial again.

Edit:
As far as AMD goes, they're always just a bit worse than the competition, without a being significantly cheaper. Their CPUs are slower, and the gfx buggier. They work more with the open source community, but their stuff never seems to work as well as Nvidia. It's hard to justify buying their stuff. If they fully opened their code, I'd buy them to support that development process, but semi open isn't good enough.

 

[VirtualLarry]

rival the hell I went thru with crucial's ballistix line a number of years ago.

Ballistix DDR2 had what, a nearly 100% failure rate over time? At least from all the reports I heard it did. Mine died, not even clocked to what they were supposed to clock to, and not anything higher than standard DDR2 voltage, in less than six months. Crap RAM indeed.

 

[kaerflog]

The PC market is in a decline.
Intel knows this and I'm pretty sure is working on mobile solutions.
AMD will die if they rely on PCs.

 

[lothar]

OCZ has loyal fans? WTF?

You must not have been following the "Official Stock Market" thread the past few months...There are lots of OCZ fans there.

 

[AmdEmAll]

If they do kick the bucket, we should order everyone with "AMD" in their name to commit seppuku.

 

[rise]

If they do kick the bucket, we should order everyone with "AMD" in their name to commit seppuku.

Nah, just amdhunter

 

[ed21x]

AMD is rumored to be providing the GPU for all three next generation consoles (so far, only Nintendo and Microsoft confirmed), so they're actually not doing too bad on that front. Also, they've slowly established a good presence in the netbook/ulv category that their APU's seem to be optimized for. If anything, they're diversifying quite well, while Intel seems to be more focused on desktop CPUs.

 

[Doppel]

Too bad, really. For more than a decade AMD has been the only real competitor to Intel in a lot of ways and has helped the market. I doubt we'll benefit from its demise.

 

[techs]

Also, they've slowly established a good presence in the netbook/ulv category that their APU's seem to be optimized for. If anything, they're diversifying quite well, while Intel seems to be more focused on desktop CPUs.

I agree. Windows 7 functions well on a relatively low power processor. AMD chips like the C-60 in a netbook work very well. So well, that you can find the lower power AMD seemingly designed for netbooks in low price desktops. For the things most people use a computer for these low power chips are more than capable.

Intel has only recently started bringing out "degraded" core processors to compete with AMD. If Intel chooses to they can probably severly cut into AMD's share. If Intel is willing to work on a smaller margin and possibly cut into their money making higher end CPU's

Windows 8 seems to require even less cpu power than Windows 7. This could help AMD short term. However, whenever Intel chooses it can flood the market with lower cost, better performing processors in this category.

 

[jpiniero]

Intel isn't doing too great either. They are almost certainly going to post negative YoY revenue again. You can only take share from AMD to stem the tide for so long. I wonder if they will announce job cuts too.

 

[techs]

Intel isn't doing too great either. They are almost certainly going to post negative YoY revenue again. You can only take share from AMD to stem the tide for so long. I wonder if they will announce job cuts too.

Intel has to shitting their pants over the idea of ARM based servers.