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AMD could be victims of Nvidia employee trade secret theft.

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Eyefinity said:
Did American scientists decide to defect then deliberately take 100,000 secrets to Nazi Germany?
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Sorry I can't follow your train...:\
I hope you can follow my


Eyefinity said:
Who do these people work for? Nvidia. Ergo, Nvidia employees stole AMD trade secrets.
That they were at AMD while they did it changes nothing
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f1sherman said:
LOL that's like saying that V1 and V2 falling on England were invented by American scientists.
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Eyefinity said:
Who do these people work for? Nvidia. Ergo, Nvidia employees stole AMD trade secrets. That they were at AMD while they did it changes nothing, they are now at Nvidia. They obviously had plans to go to Nvidia with the data.
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Your twist on the wording within the topic title was certainly creative and in no way leads the reader to believe there was an underlying intent for its composition.

Oh heck, who am I kidding.
 
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well the link is up there... see that little white-on-blue arrow next to poster's name?
 
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AdamK47 said:
Your twist on the wording within the topic title was certainly creative and in no way leads the reader to believe their was an underlying intent for its composition.

Oh heck, who am I kidding.
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If I wanted to be controversial I'd have skipped the "could be" part.

I'm sure most of us strongly suspect that Nvidia knew what "bonus" they were getting with these guys. They had already accepted jobs at Nvidia before they got hold of the files - why else would they be downloading them?

It's well known what the penalties are for this as well...so why else would these guys be risking Nvidia turning them in like what happened with the Pepsi/Coke deal? It's all very suspicious and I suspect that AMD feels there is some dirty Nvidia washing to be laundried before this is over.
 
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Most people who go work for a competitor get employed because of what they know.

Stealing 10,000 documents from the company network is theft and actually industrial espionage. Nvidia may not have known about it to begin with but you can sure bet they knew about it once those people joined.

There is normally a restrictive covenant in contracts which stop you moving to direct competitors without a 6 month cooling period where their knowledge value is diminished. Stealing those documents would have negated that because they could use them to give nvidia an advantage in the market.

If they are found guilty then they should be thrown in jail fora very long time because this can put thousands of peoples jobs at risk.
 
AdamK47 said:
Your twist on the wording within the topic title was certainly creative and in no way leads the reader to believe their was an underlying intent for its composition.

Oh heck, who am I kidding.
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Exactly! Little bit of cage rattling... that's fine by me.

But why defending it to death :\

And accusing American scientists of defecting and taking 100,000 secrets to Nazi Germany in the process 😕
 
SirPauly said:
IF that was indeed the case there would be criminal accusations, one may imagine!
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There still could be. From the little details we have (or at least that's all I've seen) AMD realized what happened, then gathered enough evidence to start legal proceedings and ask a judge to put a stop to any further actions by these men (and any possible action by nvidia) that could do any more damage than already done. Depending on the evidence and how it plays out, criminal charges could be brought against the men and nvidia. I doubt they will be but this initial suit could be a way for AMD to see if nvidia was involved and if they gained anything from the men's actions. If so, this becomes a really big deal, but I doubt it.
 
The law suit:


http://www.scribd.com/doc/120535155/AMD-lawsuit

Official response from AMD :

AMD said:
AMD will always take action to aggressively protect its confidential, proprietary and trade secret information. We believe the facts are clearly outlined in our pleadings and are supported by forensic evidence. The pleadings are publicly available. Current and former AMD employees are contractually required to honor the ongoing confidentiality and non-solicitation obligations each agreed to while employed with us.
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Source:

www.rage3d.com
 
f1sherman said:
Exactly! Little bit of cage rattling... that's fine by me.

But why defending it to death :\

And accusing American scientists of defecting and taking 100,000 secrets to Nazi Germany in the process 😕
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Mate you were the one who started talking about Americans and V2 rockets...that just didn't make sense to me.
 
Hitman928 said:
Depending on the evidence and how it plays out, criminal charges could be brought against the men and nvidia. I doubt they will be but this initial suit could be a way for AMD to see if nvidia was involved and if they gained anything from the men's actions. If so, this becomes a really big deal, but I doubt it.
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That's basically my point. AMD has nothing to lose out of doing so. Nvidia could be sweating pretty hard if these guys turn around and say they were told to aquire these secrets.
 
SirPauly said:
The law suit:


http://www.scribd.com/doc/120535155/AMD-lawsuit

Official response from AMD :



Source:

www.rage3d.com
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Once again, more proof, the OP was a twist of facts to feed a agenda. Maybe just a twisted vision of his reality? I don't know.

AMD files suit against 4 ex-employees for Industrial Espionage

It's funny , I don't see anything, again, about Nvidia employees feeding this conspiracy.

AMD appears to have filed suit against a former VP and three senior managers for breach of contract for stealing thousands of documents or electronic files before leaving for NVIDIA, and poaching employees after
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Eyefinity said:
You're not right. You're being mocked because everybody recognises that there is something wrong with the way you think, the way you flim-flam in topics and completely avoid answering questions.

Just go away. You're not smart, you're just an irritating little nobody.
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I've actually answered every damn criticism that's been presented. If I'm wrong, please point it out so I can gleefully defecate on it.

And you're really bad at making arguments:

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Bottom rung! Good job!
 
piesquared said:
It's not clear that NV was involved, although it seems likely. The question is, if NV knew of the theft, why would they hire them if not for these documents.
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You hire them for their knowledge and talent, not for documents. Documents are generally worthless in competitive industry, they may give you a temporary insight but they're quickly outdated and also creates liability. You hire people from competing companies to deny them a talent pool and to add it on your own.

Moreover, you'll find that even in similar industries, companies work so differently that it doesn't help to have R&D material from other companies.
 
http://hexus.net/business/news/legal/50613-amd-execs-left-join-nvidia-took-100000-confidential-docs/

Let me highlight the important stuff that a lot of people seem to be missing.

The files, exceeding 100,000 in number, “include obviously confidential, proprietary, and/or trade secret materials relating to developing technology and/or highly confidential business strategy,” and specifically the following “three highly confidential files - two licensing agreements with significant customers, and a document outlining proposed strategies to AMD's strategic licensing” reports ZDNet. AMD says these documents could be used by NVIDIA for unfair competitive advantage.
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This is clearly of interest to Nvidia.

...the former employees named in the suit “transferred to external storage devices trade secret files and information in the days prior to their leaving AMD to work for Nvidia.”
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These guys had clearly accepted positions at Nvidia before downloading the secrets. They were Nvidia employees in all except sitting at their desks at Nv HQ.
 
Eyefinity said:
http://hexus.net/business/news/legal/50613-amd-execs-left-join-nvidia-took-100000-confidential-docs/

Let me highlight the important stuff that a lot of people seem to be missing.

This is clearly of interest to Nvidia.

These guys had clearly accepted positions at Nvidia before downloading the secrets. They were Nvidia employees in all except sitting at their desks at Nv HQ.
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It would be of interest to NV, but I doubt that it's in their interest to accept these documents. If you're working in the industry anyway, there's very little to be gleaned from confidential documents that you aren't somewhat cognizant of anyway.

Chances are, these guys thought they could probably use these documents to help them rise up the chain in NV. I really doubt that anyone from NV would want to have these documents.
 
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