AMD confirms price cuts, 3 free games to be bundled with 79xx

[soccerballtux]

nexuiz, I thought that was f2p?

 

[kidsafe]

Between the 7850 being the great overclocker it is, and the 7950 only $40-$50 more, the 7870 is between a rock and a hard place.

Once NVidia releases their 6 series cards, hopefully AMD will cut the prices on the 7850 and 7870. If the NVidia mid ranges are anything like the 680 was to the 7970, they will undercut the AMD offerings and force AMD to drop prices to stay competitive.

You get better than GTX 560 Ti performance out of an HD 7850, so it doesn't need to be that cheap...That $210-230 range sounds just about right and they're already headed in that direction. The HD 7870 should definitely be in that $300-320 range. Considering there is one card of each type on Newegg close to those prices, I think of that as a silent acknowledgement.

The TechPowerUp info regarding the GTX 660 indicates that it probably won't beat the pants off a GTX 560 Ti, so while you can argue the wait for the GTX 680 was justified, it doesn't seem to be the case here.

 

[AE-Ruffy]

Between the 7850 being the great overclocker it is, and the 7950 only $40-$50 more, the 7870 is between a rock and a hard place.

Once NVidia releases their 6 series cards, hopefully AMD will cut the prices on the 7850 and 7870. If the NVidia mid ranges are anything like the 680 was to the 7970, they will undercut the AMD offerings and force AMD to drop prices to stay competitive.

7850 $260 Average
7950 $380 cheapest
7870 $330-380 Range

You're confusing the 7850 with the 70 in terms of price. This pricecut makes the 7870 worthless atm unless 30-50 dollars is too much for you.

Now if they drop the 7850 to $200 and the 7870 to $300 then things make sense again. But not by much.

Looks like im holding out for either a 78xx pricecut or a 660 equivalent

 

[Quantos]

These cuts are coming along quite nicely:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102982
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161399

That Sapphire's got a pretty good cooler as well...

 

[FlasHBurN]

It seems like none of the NewEgg listings actually list the new games (they all just list Dirt 3), any idea how that works? Do you just register some serial number on AMD's website or something?

 

[-Slacker-]

Reference HIS hd 7970 for $450 on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&PageSize=20

 

[OVerLoRDI]

480 for the 7970 isn't bad. Should be a bit lower, but it is much more reasonable than 550.

 

[DominionSeraph]

How is it too much? It's the same speed as the 6850 and the same price, with the bonus of lower power consumption.

You could get a GTX 460 for $130 in October of 2010. 18 months out from that, why does a card that doesn't even match its performance cost $10 more?

 

[KompuKare]

You could get a GTX 460 for $130 in October of 2010. 18 months out from that, why does a card that doesn't even match its performance cost $10 more?

28nm is more expensive that's for sure. But while a few % difference in power usage isn't that important the 460 uses twice the power:
_______________________2D Idle____3D Max load
Nvidia GeForce GTX 460____16.8W____132.1W
ATI Radeon HD 7770_______11.0W_____67.2W

 

[Bobisuruncle54]

28nm is more expensive that's for sure. But while a few % difference in power usage isn't that important the 460 uses twice the power:
_______________________2D Idle____3D Max load
Nvidia GeForce GTX 460____16.8W____132.1W
ATI Radeon HD 7770_______11.0W_____67.2W

Not really relevant. For most people that will cost what, $10 a year extra if that?

28nm may be expensive, but that's AMD's problem not the consumers - it's up to them to release a competitive product that we will want to buy.

 

[KompuKare]

Not really relevant. For most people that will cost what, $10 a year extra if that?

28nm may be expensive, but that's AMD's problem not the consumers - it's up to them to release a competitive product that we will want to buy.

Like I've said before: it seems AMD used a lot the gains of 28nm for gCompute which (atm) no gamer wants. Otherwise the 1500 million transistors in Cape Verde should have outperformed the 1700 million of Barts since 28nm clocks a lot higher.

But with power, the difference I'm more interested in is the extra noise and having to have a bigger PSU. Mind you, although I may not be fond of Nvidia's engineering (I was burnt by a self-destructing 8800GT), I have to give them credit in that even before Kepler (when Nvidia had very poor perf/watt) they do put very good quiet coolers on their reference cards.

 

[DominionSeraph]

28nm is more expensive that's for sure. But while a few % difference in power usage isn't that important the 460 uses twice the power:

Why are you using percentage for power with nothing related defined for value? Do you even know what power is?

But with power, the difference I'm more interested in is the extra noise and having to have a bigger PSU.

You can run an overclocked i5 2500k and a GTX 460 on a CX430. How much smaller did you want to get?
And the GTX 460 is not known as a noisy card. Anandtech's Bench says it's actually quieter than the 7770.

So, 18 months ago you could have had a faster, quieter card that would run on a $20 PSU... for less than the 7770 is now.
This is why so many of us are quite unimpressed with the current pricing structure. Things have been stagnant for a long time. There really hasn't been much of any movement (other than the dumping of the fail GTX 480) since shortly after the GTX 460 launch. AMD releasing their 28nm for even higher prices was ridiculous.

 

[realjetavenger]

These cuts are coming along quite nicely:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102982
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161399

That Sapphire's got a pretty good cooler as well...

Funny, I was just looking at this before coming (back) into this thread. That is a very tempting price for the dual-x cooler ($460 after $10 rebate). Not that I need a new card, but just for how good a job this cooler does and how quiet it is, really, really tempting. And now that this model is cheaper than a reference 680, oh what to do?

 

[Silverforce11]

Not really relevant. For most people that will cost what, $10 a year extra if that?

28nm may be expensive, but that's AMD's problem not the consumers - it's up to them to release a competitive product that we will want to buy.

Dunno bout that, when you pay >$0.3 USD per kwh it really adds up.

ps. A lot of European countries pay ~0.3 to 0.4 EUROs per kwh. You do the math.

 

[railven]

These cuts are coming along quite nicely:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102982
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161399

That Sapphire's got a pretty good cooler as well...

Early bird gets the worm at the cost of sleep.

I said I wouldn't cry when the new price cuts rolled in...I said I wouldn't...

That could have been mine if only I waited 1 more month AND $100 less then what I paid! :'(

 

[Quantos]

Early bird gets the worm at the cost of sleep.

I said I wouldn't cry when the new price cuts rolled in...I said I wouldn't...

That could have been mine if only I waited 1 more month AND $100 less then what I paid! :'(

Hehe, I just ordered a Sapphire. That thing's pretty boss! ^_^

 

[railven]

Hehe, I just ordered a Sapphire. That thing's pretty boss! ^_^

Nice! It will be a noticeable upgrade. I came from an HD 5870, and all my games felt the pep of a new GPU.

 

[Haserath]

You could get a GTX 460 for $130 in October of 2010. 18 months out from that, why does a card that doesn't even match its performance cost $10 more?

So many factors...

For one, the 460 was $199 in Oct 2010.
http://www.techpowerup.com/133109/N...60-and-GTX-470-to-Counter-HD-6800-Threat.html

There are others, but nobody ever listens to my arguments anyway. They just go on and on about how they want things to be in magic fairy land, where the magic smoke is free.
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Surprised AMD didn't cut the 7870 with these. The 7850 was a good deal, but the 7870 was poor from the get go. Now it's a terrible deal no matter which way you look at it. Just a matter of time for more cuts...

 

[BallaTheFeared]

So many factors...

For one, the 460 was $199 in Oct 2010.
http://www.techpowerup.com/133109/N...60-and-GTX-470-to-Counter-HD-6800-Threat.html

There are others, but nobody ever listens to my arguments anyway. They just go on and on about how they want things to be in magic fairy land, where the magic smoke is free.
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Surprised AMD didn't cut the 7870 with these. The 7850 was a good deal, but the 7870 was poor from the get go. Now it's a terrible deal no matter which way you look at it. Just a matter of time for more cuts...

Yes yes I remember this, in late Nov 2010 I was looking at various GTX 460 models at around $180. I just happened across a deal on a GTX 470 for $185 and went with it. I remember it was originally out of my price range for what I wanted to pay, which seems odd now that I have a second one, and two blocks

If I remember correctly, maybe it was because of the sales going on, but $180 was actually on the high side for the 460s at the time.