AMD Catalyst 10.10e Hotfix

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hclarkjr

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http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1901/AMD_Catalyst_10.10e_Hotfix.html


  • The AMD Catalyst Control Center now features the new AMD Catalyst AI user interface options on the ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series (the new AMD Catalyst AI options were previously only available for the AMD Radeon 6800 Series)”
  • Fixed cases where Morphological Anti-Aliasing (MLAA) was not being correctly applied to games (very intermittently)
  • OpenGL 4.1 beta support
  • Support for the new Morphological Anti-Aliasing feature
  • Dead Rising 2 – Crossfire profile (Resolves negative scaling)
  • Crossfire Performance Improvement for:
    o Metro 2033
    o F1 2011 - (Direct X9 version)
    o Fallout New Vegas
  • Performance optimizations for systems with an AMD Radeon HD 6870 and AMD Radeon HD 6850 series of graphics products installed
    o Aliens versus Predator performance enhancements
    o Star Craft 2 performance enhancements
    o OpenGL performance enhancements – gains can be seen in Prey, Quake Wars: Enemy Territories, and Heaven v2
  • Support for additional Stereo 3D-capable displays:
    o Viewsonic V3D241wm-LED
    o 3D Projectors
 
Skurge

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How come they don't specify the speed increases for the 6870/6850 in these hotfixes.
 
blastingcap

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when these updates came out once a month, people complained that it was a WHOLE MONTH

but i bet people will complain now that these updates come TOO OFTEN haha
 
james1701

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After I installed this driver, I check marked the Morphological Anti-Aliasing box. I did nothing else. when I tried to bench Crysis, I went from 64 fps down to 52fps without even using the AA drop down box to add any. I have AA set to use application settings. What is causing such a performance drop by just checking the MAA box?
 
Qbah

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james1701 said:
After I installed this driver, I check marked the Morphological Anti-Aliasing box. I did nothing else. when I tried to bench Crysis, I went from 64 fps down to 52fps without even using the AA drop down box to add any. I have AA set to use application settings. What is causing such a performance drop by just checking the MAA box?
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It's the MLAA. It's an extra filter, not controlled by the "use application settings" and the multiplier slider. It's an extra (so you can run for example MSAA + MLAA too).
 
WelshBloke

WelshBloke

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Skurge said:
How come they don't specify the speed increases for the 6870/6850 in these hotfixes.
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This is a non vendor specific point.

I hate those speed increase %'s. If they were accurate I'd never need to buy another card again! There seems to be a 5-20% improvement claim with every new driver.

I'd be fun if someone totalled all the driver improvement claims for an established card.
 
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pcslookout

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Is MLAA really worth it?

I install just the video driver and none of that extra crap. Not even the catalyst manager or that useless VC++ redist
 
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pcslookout

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Thankfully most of the games I play all have support for AA. I refuse to install AMD Catalyst 10.10 drivers at this time. Even more so those are not the only ones. I researched the problems and have had first hand experience. Most people won't notice it though if they don't power use their pc.

Have seen some people try to trick others in installing them though here by saying they are ok. I will be monitoring this much more.
 
Qbah

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pcslookout said:
Thankfully most of the games I play all have support for AA. I refuse to install AMD Catalyst 10.10 drivers at this time. Even more so those are not the only ones. I researched the problems and have had first hand experience. Most people won't notice it though if they don't power use their pc.

Have seen some people try to trick others in installing them though here by saying they are ok. I will be monitoring this much more.
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Huh? Tricked? And what would anyone gain by doing so? What exactly is wrong with the 10.10e drivers? Not to mention you can un-tick MLAA until you actually want / need to use it in a game if you're getting any issues running GPU-accelerated stuff on your desktop (like the FF4 newest beta builds).

I can name two games where MLAA is a huge increase in image quality - Borderlands and Darksiders. Did you see Dead Space with MLAA? it's like night and day. After trying games with MLAA ON there's no going back for me (for the games I don't have other options that satisfy my needs) - aliasing was unbearable for me in those games. I play everything with AAx4, most of my games run great on my setup with SSAAx4, for some I use MSAAx4 (mostly due to performance). And the ones that don't support AA (or there's no visual difference with a huge performance penalty -> Borderlands), I use MLAA.

Options are always good, nobody is forcing you to use anything.
 
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pcslookout

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Qbah said:
Huh? Tricked? And what would anyone gain by doing so? What exactly is wrong with the 10.10e drivers? Not to mention you can un-tick MLAA until you actually want / need to use it in a game if you're getting any issues running GPU-accelerated stuff on your desktop (like the FF4 newest beta builds).

I can name two games where MLAA is a huge increase in image quality - Borderlands and Darksiders. Did you see Dead Space with MLAA? it's like night and day. After trying games with MLAA ON there's no going back for me (for the games I don't have other options that satisfy my needs) - aliasing was unbearable for me in those games. I play everything with AAx4, most of my games run great on my setup with SSAAx4, for some I use MSAAx4 (mostly due to performance). And the ones that don't support AA (or there's no visual difference with a huge performance penalty -> Borderlands), I use MLAA.

Options are always good, nobody is forcing you to use anything.
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Well I did say only some people. Not everyone. Anyway. There would be really no gain for them at least causing people computer problems. I am talking about more so about the 10.10 drivers. Not sure about 10.10e yet.

You have to keep MLAA enabled all the time for it to go on in a game you can't set it to on only in games or certain games ? :(

I use 4x AA in all my games that support AA which is like mainly all. I don't play Borderlands, Darksiders, or Dead Space. Never have. May one day look and see though. :p
 
Qbah

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pcslookout said:
Well I did say only some people. Not everyone. Anyway. There would be really no gain for them at least causing people computer problems. I am talking about more so about the 10.10 drivers. Not sure about 10.10e yet.

You have to keep MLAA enabled all the time for it to go on in a game you can't set it to on only in games or certain games ? :(

I use 4x AA in all my games that support AA which is like mainly all. I don't play Borderlands, Darksiders, or Dead Space. Never have. May one day look and see though. :p
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Well, I'm using CCC. There are no user game profiles present as a functionality, so for me it's changing settings manually before I play games. I run forced settings based on what I currently play (but that's also not a rule - not really bothered by changing stuff here and there). I don't really play many different games at once, hence it's not a problem for me to change some settings once in a while :) No idea if ATT or some other tool (Radeon Pro?) are updated to allow the inclusion of MLAA in game profiles.

And yes, if you want to have MLAA, you need to enable it. But it's an extra - meaning you can actually run both MSAA and MLAA at the same time for example. For the games that I don't want to use MSAA/SSAA, I select "use application settings" and tick MLAA - meaning just MLAA is forced (as it's not controlled by the "use application settings" tick - this is for MSAA / SSAA only).
 
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pcslookout

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Qbah said:
Well, I'm using CCC. There are no user game profiles present as a functionality, so for me it's changing settings manually before I play games. I run forced settings based on what I currently play (but that's also not a rule - not really bothered by changing stuff here and there). I don't really play many different games at once, hence it's not a problem for me to change some settings once in a while :) No idea if ATT or some other tool (Radeon Pro?) are updated to allow the inclusion of MLAA in game profiles.

And yes, if you want to have MLAA, you need to enable it. But it's an extra - meaning you can actually run both MSAA and MLAA at the same time for example. For the games that I don't want to use MSAA/SSAA, I select "use application settings" and tick MLAA - meaning just MLAA is forced (as it's not controlled by the "use application settings" tick - this is for MSAA / SSAA only).
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Ok thanks. I really don't like CCC but that is my own problem. Never like all that useless video card driver crap if I don't need it. Like Catalyst Manager or that useless Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package
 
bryanW1995

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Hmmm, I wonder now that the "magic driver" is out and there are no claims of 68x0 being faster than 58x0 if our resident amd graphics expert has more spin to give us. Maybe that will happen in 10.11? Maybe "never"?
 
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Arkadrel said:
This is MLAA:
http://www.iryokufx.com/mlaa/gallery/index.html
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At first I was certain that either the page wasn't loading properly since I saw ZERO difference between No AA and MLAA. Then I looked at the Unigen benchmark and there was definitely a difference between MLAA and 8xAA. So looking extremely closely, I could see that MLAA helped make some of the straight lines in shapes look less pixelated. But it seemed extremely subtle in most screen shots and could only be picked out after comparing the images back and forth numerous times. This kind of feature is not worth a performance hit in my book.
 
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