y'all guys just mad that you didn't wait for bulldozer and bought into sandy bridge. Who cares if it performs terribly, i'm going to have twice as many cores as you fools
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y'all guys just mad that you didn't wait for bulldozer and bought into sandy bridge. Who cares if it performs terribly, i'm going to have twice as many cores as you fools
This can't be real, no way!
IMHO actually these are pretty much real. I did a background check on the poster before I post (to make sure its not another fraudster). The second one especially is even more reliable. The original here >> AMD Bulldozer FX-8120 獨家曝光! (still exist) was in the Chinese VR-Zone site, under Product Testing section. This was also in the English VR-Zone site here >> Early Benchmarks of AMD Bulldozer FX-8120 Zambezi B2 Stepping but the article was pulled out just a few hours (still can be found under news search engine but the link is dead). Cached snippet quotes (from Hardware.info)....Your first clue that benches are not real is that the "reliable" sites aren't touting them. People that we know have reliable sources (We'll use Anand as an example, but there are others. You all can insert your favorite. ) are not confirming these leaks. People who are typically under NDA or have reliable sources that they don't want to give info that would flesh them out.
Just like the Sisoftware leak, this one got pulled out either due to NDA violation or complaint (speculations). :hmm:Our team in Taiwan have obtained a sample of the latest B2 revision (rumored retail stepping) of the enthusiast targeted AMD "Bulldozer" FX-8120 (8-core 3.1GHz codenamed "Zambezi" chip) and ran a few benchmarks on it to see how it fared in multithreaded scenarios.
Whether these people are under NDA (like the earlier B0 stepping leaks) is unknown.Typically, when someone is under NDA they can't reveal any info they get from the source of the NDA. Once it's out though, they are able to report generally known info.
I'm regularly disappointed in the benchmarking abilities of those in Asia with pre-released hardware. Is not possible to run something meaningful with the hardware?
I think buldozer name is apropriate.
Amd hoped that it will demolized intel.
But unfortunetly buldozer will demolish amd!!!!
i do not know if amd can survive after a fiasco of bulldozer.
As it seems more and more that buldozer will fail hard.
Amd for sale soon???
I've always wondered this. Why does the leaked hardware always seem to wind up in the hands of an incompetent boob?
Things can be pulled because they are deemed to be fake. We don't know why they were pulled?
I'm not talking about the leakers being under NDA. I'm figuring they aren't. My point is that someone who is under NDA and couldn't leak the info themselves could report it after it became general knowledge.
Just to illustrate. Let's make believe I was under NDA and had a web news outlet. A reviewer, for example. I can't report anything I've been told from official sources or that I might have tested myself. Once someone else leaked it though, I could then report their leak. If I knew it wasn't true, though, why bother to help spread Fud? How many legit news sites have we seen post any of these leaked benches?
Just saw this at XS. Does that answer your question?Things can be pulled because they are deemed to be fake. We don't know why they were pulled?
I'm not talking about the leakers being under NDA. I'm figuring they aren't. My point is that someone who is under NDA and couldn't leak the info themselves could report it after it became general knowledge.
someone deleted my thread in VRFORUMS (english version). Saying that they need to clarify with AMD what's wrong with the result. Maybe some L3 prefetching and CnQ microcode issue in BIOS?
see the screen shot.
Actually, if you look at the Cinebench R11.5 scores then it came very close to Nehalem in the multi-threaded scenario (if you consider Bulldozer "cores" as threads). Unfortunately Nehalem was more than 3 years ago and Intel is a "moving target".we'll see. but those numbers dont look good at all.
I can't see AMD going this far with BD if it couldn't beat their current top chip. Simulations would have long ago helped them to realize the potential of BD. The simulations couldn't be That far off could it?
I don't think it's inconceivable that BD could be slower than X6. Remember that P4 Willamette was slower than P3 when it was released, for example. It had the potential to be better, but it took a little while for the process to mature to the point that they could hit the clocks necessary for the architecture to be competitive.As many have pointed out - these leaks lack common sense and realism. a Phenom II X6 can beat BD, why even bother? AMD could just have given Ph II a die shrink instead.
At worst they are pure fakes, at best the represent a shapshot of the performance of an unfinished product, which is utterly meaningless, since it won't have any bearing on end user experience.
Well simulations are one thing and real silicon is another. Anyway,they knew what they are up against.It was going to be Nehalem's successor.So they knew performance levels of both Nehalem and Westmere(6C/12T). If they designed this thing to be just barely faster than X6 (Thuban/Lisbon) with 8 thread versus 6,then they must have know how will it fair against intel's cores in 2011(read: not too well).I can't see AMD going this far with BD if it couldn't beat their current top chip. Simulations would have long ago helped them to realize the potential of BD. The simulations couldn't be That far off could it?
These do seem to be close (and similar) to TankGuys Bulldozer "pre-order" prices....
FX6100 X6 - $204.99
FX8120 x8 - $236.99
FX8150 x8 - $259.99
not before they have a firesale of their bulldozer chip. i'd buy one for 50$
Intel has done it twice (Pentium 4 and Itanium). Hopefully AMD doesn't follow the same path.
Smartest thing I've heard about BD in a while.
P.S. Given up waiting for BD. Happy with my brand new i5-2500k(Best 150$ Clearance Item I bought).
I'm kicking myself right now - I had a $150 i5-2500K from Fry's that I returned. Best price I'm seeing now is over $200.