AMD BE2350 availability?

[hirschma]

These have been reviewed here and elsewhere, yet, nothing to buy? Anyone know when they'll be shipping?

 

[Basilisk]

FWIW: Directron.com has an ETA of 7/12 on the 2300 and 2350. They'd have to be pretty careless with their site to be far off just two days before the ETA, but....

 

[hirschma]

Originally posted by: Basilisk
FWIW: Directron.com has an ETA of 7/12 on the 2300 and 2350. They'd have to be pretty careless with their site to be far off just two days before the ETA, but....

I caught that, too. I'm guessing, like you, that this is an indication that they're finally hitting the channel. Or that Directron is really, really off

Oh, thanks for replying to my email, very nice of you to do so.

jh

 

[eplebnista]

In stock at Newegg

 

[hirschma]

Originally posted by: eplebnista
In stock at Newegg

Thanks very much for the heads up. Nice thing for you to do!

jh

 

[covert24]

are these going to be any better than the original brisbanes or are they just another numbering system?

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: covert24
are these going to be any better than the original brisbanes or are they just another numbering system?

Exactly the same as original Brisbanes except lower default voltages. I reckon you can easily undervolt a normal Brisbane anyway, so I don't see the point in the BE series at this point, the X2 3600+ is clearly the better value.

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: covert24
are these going to be any better than the original brisbanes or are they just another numbering system?

Exactly the same as original Brisbanes except lower default voltages. I reckon you can easily undervolt a normal Brisbane anyway, so I don't see the point in the BE series at this point, the X2 3600+ is clearly the better value.

You can undervolt a CPU, sure, but from a stability / risk of data corruption perspective, it's the same as overclocking.

 

[harpoon84]

There's generally quite a lot of undervolt 'headroom' in the X2 3600+. These chips can often do 2.6GHz+ at default voltages, but I see your point, it's just that many enthusiasts will see the BE series as nothing more than undervolted Brisbanes, which, in essence, they are.

 

[covert24]

they also only take in 45w compared to the x2 3600's 65. thats a plus. not 30 bux worth tho.

 

[hurtstotalktoyou]

I thought the old X2s were all 90nm, but apparently even that changed some time ago (the Brisbane 3600+ is indeed 65nm).

 

[bryanW1995]

amd might be slow, but they eventually do make changes. They introduce the 65 nm chips in the midrange, probably b/c they couldn't make their new process work very well at 3.0, 2.8, etc. That is probably one of the reasons that they are having problems getting barcelona over 2 ghz as well.

 

[covert24]

Originally posted by: hurtstotalktoyou
I thought the old X2s were all 90nm, but apparently even that changed some time ago (the Brisbane 3600+ is indeed 65nm).

they are all 90nm except for the Brisbane cores which are all 65nm.

And all AMD processors aren't known for there excessively high speeds, they are know for there efficiency and there onboard memory controller which speeds up processes since they don't have to go to a separate southbridge.

Also, AMD is known for there solid Socket architecture. They don't jump around like Intel which requires a new motherboard/socket to support the new processors and the new AM2 sockets are backwards compatible with all of the other AMx sockets(ie.AM2, AM2+/AM3)

 

[NoSoup4You]

^ Intel's been using LGA775 for years now.

 

[timswim78]

Originally posted by: covert24
they also only take in 45w compared to the x2 3600's 65. thats a plus. not 30 bux worth tho.

If your electricity is $0.15 per kwh, and you run this thing all the time, it pays for itself in a little over a year. Not to mention less heat being produced by the chip.

 

[covert24]

Originally posted by: NoSoup4You
^ Intel's been using LGA775 for years now.

yea but the Pentium D's where crap when the came out. these D's and the 500 series started the LGA775 trend.

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: covert24

Originally posted by: NoSoup4You
^ Intel's been using LGA775 for years now.

yea but the Pentium D's where crap when the came out. these D's and the 500 series started the LGA775 trend.

The Pentium D was cheaper then anything AMD had at the time, so they served a purpose.

 

[covert24]

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: covert24

Originally posted by: NoSoup4You
^ Intel's been using LGA775 for years now.

yea but the Pentium D's where crap when the came out. these D's and the 500 series started the LGA775 trend.

The Pentium D was cheaper then anything AMD had at the time, so they served a purpose.

but they were shit and overheated frequently while the AMD's were still wayy better in performance and efficiency

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: covert24

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: covert24

Originally posted by: NoSoup4You
^ Intel's been using LGA775 for years now.

yea but the Pentium D's where crap when the came out. these D's and the 500 series started the LGA775 trend.

The Pentium D was cheaper then anything AMD had at the time, so they served a purpose.

but they were shit and overheated frequently while the AMD's were still wayy better in performance and efficiency

Shit is a bit of an exageration, they ran just fine at stock, and provide a good multitasking experience, they didn't overheat at all unless you had a poorly ventilated case and you needed to push it too the max. It doesn't matter that AMD's were better, since they were priced much higher.

And that can only be said for the Pentium D 8xx series, the Pentium D 9xx sequence ran at acceptable thermals, so Pentium D overall was a decent product considering how unprepared Intel was for Dual Core.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: NoSoup4You
^ Intel's been using LGA775 for years now.

True, but they're on their, what, 18th chipset with it?

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: covert24

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: covert24

Originally posted by: NoSoup4You
^ Intel's been using LGA775 for years now.

yea but the Pentium D's where crap when the came out. these D's and the 500 series started the LGA775 trend.

The Pentium D was cheaper then anything AMD had at the time, so they served a purpose.

but they were shit and overheated frequently while the AMD's were still wayy better in performance and efficiency

They were crap, but they were cheap. The cheapest AMD X2 back then was the $300 X2 3800+, the PD-805 was going for like $150 or something.

 

[covert24]

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: covert24

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: covert24

Originally posted by: NoSoup4You
^ Intel's been using LGA775 for years now.

yea but the Pentium D's where crap when the came out. these D's and the 500 series started the LGA775 trend.

The Pentium D was cheaper then anything AMD had at the time, so they served a purpose.

but they were shit and overheated frequently while the AMD's were still wayy better in performance and efficiency

They were crap, but they were cheap. The cheapest AMD X2 back then was the $300 X2 3800+, the PD-805 was going for like $150 or something.

hahaha and i got that 3800 when it first came out for like 288. i was so excited.

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: NoSoup4You
^ Intel's been using LGA775 for years now.

True, but they're on their, what, 18th chipset with it?

QFT