AMD Athlon running too hot?

[Navior]

hey guys


i've got a amd 1.4 athlon, older non xp version, and i think it might be running to hot, my system somtimes just restarts and somtimes apps fry for no reason, after somthing fries and i check my temp, and its at about 60 degrees. my friend told me thats the shutdown temp for my cpu, what do u guys think, bigger fan?

thanks
navior

 

[gf4200isdabest]

60 degrees !!??? I get worried when my Northy reaches 45!!

either you're insane or these Athlons run even hotter than I thought. I hope its the former because if the latter is true then I would never buy AMD again until they correct that. 60 degrees!!?? OMFG

 

[LongCoolMother]

okay first you have the athlon thunderbird (the older athlon) what do you mean by apps frying? you mean they crash? 60 C is a little high and your motherboard may restart automatically. it could also be caused if you're using win xp or win 2k and an application crashes. my athlon is the same as yours, no OC, and it runs 64C with no problems.

check to see if your case is well ventilated, and maybe throw in some case fans. a bigger fan wont fit on your CPU, it is usually 60mm or 80mm. a new heatsink or thermal compound would help as well.

 

[kLezViruS]

Yep!

 

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: gf4200isdabest
60 degrees !!??? I get worried when my Northy reaches 45!!

either you're insane or these Athlons run even hotter than I thought. I hope its the former because if the latter is true then I would never buy AMD again until the corrected this. 60 degrees!!?? OMFG

dont worry, his motherboard is probably reading the temp from the internal diode, so 60C isnt a scare.

 

[Lezboy]

dont worry, his motherboard is probably reading the temp from the internal diode, so 60C isnt a scare.

An Interesting guess but completely wrong. The Thunderbird core has no thermal diode from which to read.
AMD first introduced an internal diode with the palamino core (Athlon XP)
Incidentally, Intel first introduced it with the Pentium 2.
As you already stated, this is true.

If the temperature reading were as accurate as a thermal diode, 60C wouldn't be that bad for a Thunderbird 1.4. Since it's a socket reading which is very inaccurate from board to board, it could be much higher in reality. He could have a real die temperature of 95 for all we know.

If you suspect that it's a heat issue you can try a better heatsink fan and some better case cooling. First, I would check the cooling section of the forum

 

[bjc112]

Although that is quite high, the Thunderbird core can handle temps up to 90 C

Is it stable?

If you wanna cool it down, grab a Case fan, may-b switch the HSF...

Good Luck

 

[wasnlos]

Listen to LEZBOY.

I'm sure with a good heatsink/fan-combination you would be able to drop your temps drastically, and a good thermal compound (ARCTIC SILVER 3 comes to mind) would also help. And finally you could check your case-ventilation, a little bit of coordinated airflow will also help alot.

I guess you're getting your temps from BIOS when the computer reboots. That would be even worse, since the temperatures on the processor-die can easily climb another 20°C to 25°C on HOTSPOTS when the CPU is under load from application(s).

Time for some serious modifications...

 

[wasnlos]

BJC112

You're right as far as the tech-docs from AMD go, but this won't help here .
This T-Bird/system has it's own "mind" when certain factors come together.
It simply seems as if the time has come to spend some money to improve the complete cooling.



GF4200ISDABEST

How can you compare a P4A/B-rig with an AMD-TB-system ???
Your post leaves everybody clueless...especially the guy who needs help.

 

[bjc112]

My mistake wasnlos...

I didn't read the first post completely... If his apps are freezing, its definatley time for some new cooling...

 

[Markfw]

Ditto most everyones comments. I have a 1.33 that runs as high ar 56 under full sustained loads, and its OK. Before I upgraded my cooling, I was running about 60-64, and it wasn't perfectly stable. At 50-56, it's rock solid. You need a better HSF, thermal compound, and case cooling.

wasnlos..: Ditto your comment to gf4200isdabest, just because P4s run a little cooler, this is not the place to point that out.

 

[Gomce]

My 1.4 tbird almost a year and a half runs at ~ 57 - 70C, the HDD runs @ 45-50C ... 0 problems, rock solid.

 

[mrman3k]

AMD states that their Athlon processors can run at up to 70C without any problems. So even though 60C is high, it is not something to really worry about too much unless it is the cause of applications crashing.

 

[RamzaBeoulve]

I have my Athlon XP 1900+ running at a steady 38 degrees when near idle

60 degrees is a little high though.

Anyway, mrman3k is right: As long as you keep your CPU under 70 degrees, you lose any system stability