AMD Athlon 64 3000+ vs Sempron 3100+ (S 754) small benchmarking results

[gaidensensei]

I was able to get on my hands a Sempron 3100+, so I decided to test the difference between an A64 3000+ and the Sempron 3100+ (both socket 754) in the same system configurations.

Please forgive me for the lack of other popular benchmarks (Doom3, Halflife2, etc) as I didn't have those available.

You can check it out here:
http://www.electube.com/a64_vs_s

 

[Phlargo]

Nice work on the review.. I think more people would be perfectly happy with lesser CPUs than ever know it. How many random PC buyers would ever care about having more than a Athlon XP 2000+ or so?

 

[Budman]

Too bad you bought the old 0.13 nm Sempron & not the new 0.9nm 3100+ sempron.

 

[ecvs85]

it's still a bargain since it's only 71bucks.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: ecvs85
it's still a bargain since it's only 71bucks.

I dont see the 3100+ Sempron as a bargain because a 2800+ A64 is about the same price & it's just as fast plus you get 64 bit support.

 

[imported_Kensai]

Coolio.

 

[ecvs85]

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: ecvs85
it's still a bargain since it's only 71bucks.

I dont see the 3100+ Sempron as a bargain because a 2800+ A64 is about the same price & it's just as fast plus you get 64 bit support.

athlon 64 2800+ is around 110bucks

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: ecvs85

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: ecvs85
it's still a bargain since it's only 71bucks.

I dont see the 3100+ Sempron as a bargain because a 2800+ A64 is about the same price & it's just as fast plus you get 64 bit support.

athlon 64 2800+ is around 110bucks

Find me a 71$ 3100+ sempron, newegg has them for 113$

 

[ecvs85]

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: ecvs85

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: ecvs85
it's still a bargain since it's only 71bucks.

I dont see the 3100+ Sempron as a bargain because a 2800+ A64 is about the same price & it's just as fast plus you get 64 bit support.

athlon 64 2800+ is around 110bucks

Find me a 71$ 3100+ sempron, newegg has them for 113$

Read how much he paid for his sempron
Obviously "it's still a bargain since it's only 71bucks." is refering to that.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: ecvs85

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: ecvs85

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: ecvs85
it's still a bargain since it's only 71bucks.

I dont see the 3100+ Sempron as a bargain because a 2800+ A64 is about the same price & it's just as fast plus you get 64 bit support.

athlon 64 2800+ is around 110bucks

Find me a 71$ 3100+ sempron, newegg has them for 113$

Read how much he paid for his sempron
Obviously "it's still a bargain since it's only 71bucks." is refering to that.

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As for the price, retail from newegg on 4/10/05:
Athlon 64 3000+ S754:$146
Athlon 64 2800+ S754:$120
Sempron 3100+ S754: $113

 

[ecvs85]

I'm refering to the sempron "he got", not the retail versions.

"it's still a bargain since it's only 71bucks"
I'm already know the price of a "new" sempron, but I never refer to that.

EDIT: I want to ask you how much he paid for that sempron, $71 or $113?

 

[Budman]

He must have got a used chip since there's no way he paid 71$ for a new cpu.

Anand did a review a while back & in my opinion the A64 2800+ is a much better bargain than the 3100+ sempron.

link to Anand's article

 

[gaidensensei]

Originally posted by: Budman
He must have got a used chip since there's no way he paid 71$ for a new cpu.

No, it was completly new in box. Opened the box up, retail fan UNUSED with the thermal pad thing still intact, Sempron cpu spot free, no traces of heatsink compound. I was actually all over looking at the CPU making sure it wasn't used. Original seller sold it because he bought it thinking it was a socket A or something along those lines. Ebay is selling the semprons for cheap, they're going fast.

Anyways, you guys made a fuss over the price in this thread that's alright with me, I guess.

 

[ecvs85]

So everything is clear now?

If not let me clear it up again:
the chip is sold at around $113, he got it at $71 new, now if that's not a bargain I don't know what you think of it anymore.

Budman, your statement is suggesting that I don't know anything about the differences between amd athlon 64 and sempron 3100+, sadly you're wrong, if you don't believe me search and see what's my rig consists of (and that's a 7 months old rig)

EDIT: This is my last post in this topic and I don't to argue it anymore, since everytime I post it is no more than clearing up again and again.

 

[DrMrLordX]

It's an interesting review, but your final commentary about the Sempron 3100+ running a bit cooler are a tad misleading. The 130nm part you reviewed is not going to OC as well as the newer 90nm Sempron 3100+ parts. In fact, I'd rather get the Sempron 2800+ for OCing, unless the low 8x multiplier proved to be problematic.

Also, it would have been more fair to benchmark the Sempron 3100+ at stock speeds vs the Athlon 64 2800+ at stock speeds. They run at the same clock speed, and have similar retail pricing. Such a review could highlight the effect of l2 cache difference on performance.

 

[sangyup81]

well for overclockers, it's still better to get a $76 sempron 2600 than a $110 a64 2800

 

[gaidensensei]

Yes, I wish I had a 64 2800+ to benchmark it out, then it would have been much more fair. But I think the benchmarks that I put out were pretty much fair to show the difference between the Sempron and the 3000+, in which, the differences were very minimal.

When I was running the 130nm cpu though, it constantly stayed atleast 4-7 degrees under my A64, and I thought it was worthy to comment on that. I'll probably edit it in the end so people can get a heads up about the difference.

 

[Avalon]

Yeah, this was done on Anand before though. Good job with taking the time to do it, though. I'd also recommend a 2800+ sempy for those on a budget. The low multiplier is a problem only if you wish to hit 2.6 with it, assuming you have the 90nm version. I would imagine it actually is very plausible to get these on eBay cheaper than retail, as things that are not very popular tend to have a much lower than normal value on eBay.

 

[AkumaX]

thanks for the review; itll help me in my decision making purchases