AMD AM3+ Stock Cooler

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spaceman

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running my 6300 a default til new board gets here
stock hs is a far cry from those heatpipe ones in temrs of looks/apparent quality
its so bad looking im almost insulted they inculded it
 

StrangerGuy

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All the AMD HSFs I have seen since Athlon XP has been noisy garbage, even the heatpipe equipped ones. Even the stock 2500K HSF is light years better in comparison.
 

PG

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There are way more then just 2 types of stock heatsinks now for AMD FX cpus.
I don't really know where to get good pics so I will post item numbers I found while searching ebay so you can get a look if you want.


1. Early FX-4100 and FX-6100 cpus had the mostly aluminum heatsinks, but with a round copper center insert on the bottom. Works well for a 95W cpu and moves air in all 4 directions which I like because it cools the northbridge heatsink. If the thermal paste is still on the bottom you can't really see the copper much, but it is there.
Item Number: 400316334824


2. FX-8120 heatsink with 2 heatpipes each end, and small diameter fan. Seems almost the same as the Phenom II 965 heatsink. Loud and doesn't perform that well. Fan sticks up from the top. Bottom is sometimes a rectangle vs the 965 heatsink which has 4 "wings" at the corners of the copper bottom.
Item number: 130784375456
wings clearly shown: 400373030054


3. FX-8150 heatsink. Same basic design as the 8120 above, but larger than the FX-8120 heatsink, larger fan also. Larger as in taller, and the overall rectangular size is larger.
Not as loud and does better than the 8120 heatsinks. I have seen a few FX-8120 cpus come with this heatsink also. These have a flat top, no fan sticking up. The fan is under a big shroud you take off and then the fan mounts underneath. Somewhat rare and hard to find a good picture. Look at the top to see the difference.
Item number: 281037260479


4. New FX-6100 cooler. Just got a Micro Center bundle and got one of these. Heatpipe design, but only one pipe per side. Not as many fins as numbers 2 or 3 either and very thin copper base. Very odd. Was expecting #1, but oh well. It was marked with the Cooler Master name. Probably does fine for stock speeds, but not for much more just judging the looks.
Item number: 330837968016 and 321053161955


If that 6300 heatsink from the picture above really has no copper center then that is a new model and needs added to my list. The picture posted has paste pre-applied on the bottom so I can't tell for sure. I also have not bought any Vishera cpus yet so I don't really know those heatsinks. Knowing AMD those are unique somehow now too.
 

Pohemi

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The stock HSF included with the new FX-6300 are indeed Aluminum with NO copper or heatpipes whatsoever. It comes with a small pad of thermal compound already on the bottom contact area.

I'm continuing to use Arctic Silver 5 and my Zalman CNP9000 HSF that I've had for a while and used with my previous CPU, a Phenom II X2, and it's working fine so far. Idle temps have been ~28-30C with full load/stress temps rising to ~52C (chip is OCed to 4GHZ on stock voltage fwiw).
 

spaceman

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also the 6300 one has a crappy red fan
its just a junk cooler
i dont mind, its ok but
at least the heatpipe oes felt substantial
these are like bad socket a ones with goofy fans and flimsy
 

grjr

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4. New FX-6100 cooler. Just got a Micro Center bundle and got one of these. Heatpipe design, but only one pipe per side. Not as many fins as numbers 2 or 3 either and very thin copper base. Very odd. Was expecting #1, but oh well. It was marked with the Cooler Master name. Probably does fine for stock speeds, but not for much more just judging the looks.
Item number: 330837968016 and 321053161955

I also have not bought any Vishera cpus yet so I don't really know those heatsinks. Knowing AMD those are unique somehow now too.

I just purchased a FX-8350 a few weeks ago and it has the same Cooler Master HSF that you listed here

fx8350_1.jpg


fx8350_2.jpg


fx8350_3.jpg


fx8350_4.jpg
 

Idontcare

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I just purchased a FX-8350 a few weeks ago and it has the same Cooler Master HSF that you listed here

fx8350_4.jpg

They've changed something. Look carefully at the corners of the copper base on your HSF in the image above and then look at the corners of mine:

FX8350HSFpre-lapgrid.jpg


Mine has those little tabs/wings in the corners.
 

grjr

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They've changed something. Look carefully at the corners of the copper base on your HSF in the image above and then look at the corners of mine:

FX8350HSFpre-lapgrid.jpg


Mine has those little tabs/wings in the corners.

yes, I noticed that in your thread.. so maybe they are shipping different heatsinks with their FX8350's and other CPUs. Looks like the wings on yours may help center the heatsink on the CPU?
 

Idontcare

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yes, I noticed that in your thread.. so maybe they are shipping different heatsinks with their FX8350's and other CPUs. Looks like the wings on yours may help center the heatsink on the CPU?

I think mine is just cheaper to produce, has less copper. Yours has the more copper, the AM3+ socket retention system centers the HSF already. The wings on mine are just a way for the HSF to use less copper while still fitting into the edges of the socket retention mechanism.
 

hdfxst

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They've changed something. Look carefully at the corners of the copper base on your HSF in the image above and then look at the corners of mine:

FX8350HSFpre-lapgrid.jpg


Mine has those little tabs/wings in the corners.


That looks exactly like the cooler that came with my 955
 

USER8000

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There was a video on youtube,which mentioned that AMD slightly altered their aluminium cooler for the FX6300 and the fan is meant to be slightly quieter.
 

Zap

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Not really. If you remember the Sandy Bridge review, Anand wrote "effortless 4.4Ghz" using the stock cooler (both 2500K and 2600K). The real thing to remember here is to not take what people in forums say very literally - instead, understand the rationale behind it. When you understand the how's and the why's, you do not need to just blindly follow "general rules of thumb for convenience". When they say "don't OC with stock coolers", they don't literally mean "you can never OC on stock coolers". It simply means that while YMMV, you most certainly will have far more headroom and lower temps (i.e., more success and satisfaction) using a far more potent HSF. However, as long as you follow certain constraints (not going beyond max operating temps and reasonable voltage) and be satisfied with whatever OC you can get (be it 100Mhz or 500Mhz), there is nothing wrong with overclocking using the stock HSF.

Well said!

Also, understand that for many posting in an enthusiast forum, good is never good enough. ^_^