AMD A4-1200 and its product wins.

[monstercameron]

AMD a4-1200
[ http://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/tablets/Pages/tablets.aspx#1 ]
1GHz dual jaguar cores, 225MHz 128-GCN cores , ddr3l 1066, 3.9W tdp​

• 3dmark icestorm: 12203[AMD a4-1200] / 10450-13500[Nvidia tegra 4] / 14500[Intel z3770]
  
• cinebench [single/multi/gfx]: 0.21 / 0.46 / 7fps[AMD a4-1200] / 0.40 / 1.48 / 5.84fps[Intel z3770]
  
• sunspider: 769 ms[AMD a4-1200] / 382 ms[Nvidia tegra 4] / 550 ms[Intel z3770]
  

Toshiba satelite click hybrid http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/toshiba-satellite-click.aspx
$599

Pros: Bright touch screen; Good battery life in laptop mode; Loud speakers
Cons: Heavy and relatively thick design; Keyboard flexes; Short battery life in tablet mode; Below-average performance
The Verdict: Tohsiba's Satellite Click is an inexpensive AMD-powered Windows 8 hybrid, but a heavy design and flexy keyboard spoil the party.

Medion akoya netbook http://tweakers.net/productreview/83223/medion-akoya-e1318t.html
notebookcheck review http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Medion-Akoya-E1317T-Netbook.107107.0.html
$485 [converted with VAT]

translated:
conclusion:
In my humble opinion the best and most useful Netbook so far. Not only affordable but also a very good "bang for the buck". Think of the multitouch screen, high resolution (1366x768) on the 10 inch screen and the complete balanced performance. The CPU does what he must do in a smooth and flexible way in Windows 8. The GPU part is even spectacularly fast, especially considering consumption. In Cinebench took the graphical portion of the APU 25 percent of the Radeon HD4870 score. Simply put, this is like a netbook should be.

Improve dots are there, so had a 6 cell battery (instead of 3 cells) this Medion given a battery life of between 10 and 14 hours. Diskless he could also be sold cheaper...

asus x102ba netbook.
[video review] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C7yha0F42M
$349 [@ Microsoft store]
$299 [@ microcenter]

msi w20 tablet.
[review] http://translate.google.com/transla.../Content_View.asp?TNum=1569&kind=2&gotopage=1
[review] http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-MSI-W20-A421-Tablet.106968.0.html
http://www.msi.com/product/windpad/W20-3M.html

translated:
conclusion: MSI, so that is nothing. The manufacturer comes with its W20 too late to the market. The A4-1200 should compete with the Clover View-atom, which would fit well priced until recently. Now put Intel's quad-core Atom Bay Trail in the first tablets. This generation is not only faster, it also sells cheaper. The new Atom tablets are to be had from 400 euros. Against the new Bay Trail, the W20 comes with the foot-dragging A4-1200 alone (800 instead of 1,000 MHz). Benchmarks or not, it was terrifying for us as slow a Windows 8 tablet may feel. Such a weak freestyle we had not experienced in the Clover View dual cores.

asus x55ep [might be wrong information]
http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/X552EP/#specifications

[$349]hp touchsmart 10.1
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/hom...C-ENERGY-STAR-

temash a6-1450_
[$599] HP Pavilion 13z-p100 x2 PC [nice looking 2-in-1]
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/hom...13z-p100-x2-PC

updated: 20/12/13

 

[Chiropteran]

I feel like those netbooks would be a more viable product at $200. For $350-$500 I'd want an A6-5200 or faster processor.

 

[SPBHM]

CB CPU score is comparable to 2008 (dual core) Atom... so I agree, doesn't look like an adequate "APU" for anything near $500.

 

[monstercameron]

I feel like those netbooks would be a more viable product at $200. For $350-$500 I'd want an A6-5200 or faster processor.

you can get toshiba 15.6 inchers for $329 @bestbuy with amd a6-5200

Also I tried out the toshiba satelite click, it was heavy, the docking connector was finicky but the a4-1200 felt snappy in metro IE and the 1366x768 display was very sharp and bright!

It idlers around 6-700MHz [while the surface 2 idles aroud 400MHz] and scored ~780ms in sunspider putting it on par with the ipad 4, not quite baytrail levels. I couldn't test out the 3d prowess but all in all it isn't a bad package...the price just needs to drop to ~$399-499 to make it more compelling.

 

[Shivansps]

Performance wise it seems a C-50 with E-350 IGP level, at 3.9W, what is not bad at all for that TDP. Prices are horrible, even the x102ba is way expensive for what it is.

Im gona ask just 1 question, why i should buy a A4-1200?

 

[monstercameron]

Performance wise it seems a C-50 with E-350 IGP level, at 3.9W, what is not bad at all for that TDP. Prices are horrible, even the x102ba is way expensive for what it is.

Im gona ask just 1 question, why i should buy a A4-1200?

Why do you buy anything? Because you want it of course.
For me I would buy this because it is built for small form factor devices.

Also this is comparable with the ams e-300 in terms of CPU and GPU with 3-4x power reduction.

 

[Shivansps]

But this is not charity, the A6-5200 at $329 is a great deal indeed, the A4-1200 at those prices its not, not even for the $299 one. Try $199 and we may speak.

 

[monstercameron]

But this is not charity, the A6-5200 at $329 is a great deal indeed, the A4-1200 at those prices its not, not even for the $299 one. Try $199 and we may speak.

By that logic apple should sell their iPad for 1/2 - 1/3 the price...
You buy a product if you like, it isn't a charity case the other way around for the company too...

 

[Shivansps]

What kind if way of thinking is that? i buy the best bang for the buck, im not gona pay more for something that performs worse just because i like it. This is not Apple.

 

[Vesku]

Sadly I have yet to see a budget notebook combining a A4-5000 or A6-5200 with a 13.3 or 14 inch screen. HP has already done the budget 14 inch with their Chromebook line, so I don't see why such a combination is still missing.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Way, way too expensive. 300.00 maybe, no more than that.

Edit: I was referring to the toshiba and medion at 600.00 (Holy Cow!!) and the medion at close to 500.00.

The asus one at 300.00 might be a consideration, but you can get the transformer one that detaches into a tablet for close to that price.

 

[Sable]

what am I looking at, is this an advert?

 

[slackerinabox]

what am I looking at, is this an advert?

Seems like someone works for AMD

 

[sm625]

You can get celeron 1037U notebooks left and right under $300. There was a ASUS X200CA-DB01T Celeron 1007U notebook for $260 the other day.

 

[bgt]

You can get celeron 1037U notebooks left and right under $300. There was a ASUS X200CA-DB01T Celeron 1007U notebook for $260 the other day.

A Celeron CPU.....:'mad: I have an Acer V5-572P-33214G5aii here in front of me......this is already dog slow. I always thought the i3's were reasonably fast. 1 off the old Toshiba laptops I have here(with AthlonII@2.2Ghz) is even snappier than this drag.(in windows 8.1)

 

[bullzz]

I was using a hp pavilion laptop years back. probably the worst combination you wud ever run into. hp + celeron + win vista. it was god awful. the CPU got so hot even running basic programs on vista that it blackened a small area beside the mouse pad..

 

[rainy]

600 dollars for device with dual core Temash is a ridiculous price IMO, especially if it's possible to find laptops with A4-5000/A6-5200 on 300-400 dollars level range - 200-250 would be definitely more appropriate.

 

[monstercameron]

600 dollars for device with dual core Temash is a ridiculous price IMO, especially if it's possible to find laptops with A4-5000/A6-5200 on 300-400 dollars level range - 200-250 would be definitely more appropriate.

$600 for a 13.3" tablet, with dock and ips display...the performance is the only thing lacking although it does compete in performance with the ipad 4...

 

[Ancalagon44]

Someone here must work for AMD, please get them to tell me why they dont put 15 watt Kabini products into 11.6 inch laptops?

 

[bullzz]

ideally the toshiba one shud be priced at $350 or $400. for $500 u cud get a dell 11 pro with 1080p display

 

[monstercameron]

Someone here must work for AMD, please get them to tell me why they dont put 15 watt Kabini products into 11.6 inch laptops?

that is a good question but here is a 11.6 with dual core 15W kabini http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-Edge-E145-Notebook.103235.0.html

why not the a4-5000? I cen't tell you...

 

[Shivansps]

Like it or not even the Celeron 847U was already faster than a E-350, it even seems take the lead on cpu bound games too, A4-1200 is worse than a E-350 on cpu.

ill say $200 to $249 for a netbook, 249 to 299 for a tablet/convertible is right for A4-1200 (as today), MAYBE 349 with excellent display and battery, thats the prices i expect for dual BTs, It cant be priced similar to a quad BT, even less a Celeron 1037U or 2955U.

 

[rainy]

$600 for a 13.3" tablet, with dock and ips display...the performance is the only thing lacking although it does compete in performance with the ipad 4...

Good quality display is of course a nice thing, however level of performance is too low in my opinion - we are at the end of 2013 not 2010.

Btw, personally I'm not fan of tablets.

 

[monstercameron]

Like it or not even the Celeron 847U was already faster than a E-350, it even seems take the lead on cpu bound games too, A4-1200 is worse than a E-350 on cpu.

ill say $200 to $249 for a netbook, 249 to 299 for a tablet/convertible is right for A4-1200 (as today), MAYBE 349 with excellent display and battery, thats the prices i expect for dual BTs, It cant be priced similar to a quad BT, even less a Celeron 1037U or 2955U.

even with amds lower prices, $200-249 for a netbook spells a 1366x768 tn panel, 160GB hdd, 30Whr battery and uber cheap plastic.

$299-349 with a touch panel on that tn display, 64GB ssd/320GB hdd and a 40WHr batter sounds more compelling.

 

[Ancalagon44]

that is a good question but here is a 11.6 with dual core 15W kabini http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-Edge-E145-Notebook.103235.0.html

why not the a4-5000? I cen't tell you...

Looks good, but why cant I buy it anywhere?