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AMD 939----280 GTX Benchmarks Far Cry2

413xram

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Here is some small ranch benchmarks....the old 939...not to bad :))

Run 1
Settings: Demo(Ranch Small), 1920x1200 (60Hz), D3D10, Fixed Time Step(No), Disable Artificial Intelligence(No), Full Screen, Anti-Aliasing(4x), VSync(No), Overall Quality(Ultra High), Vegetation(Very High), Shading(Ultra High), Terrain(Ultra High), Geometry(Ultra High), Post FX(High), Texture(Ultra High), Shadow(Ultra High), Ambient(High), Hdr(Yes), Bloom(Yes), Fire(Very High), Physics(Very High), RealTrees(Very High)

Loop 1

* Total Frames: 2016, Total Time: 51.01s
* Average Framerate: 39.53
* Max. Framerate: 56.83 (Frame:283, 6.24s)
* Min. Framerate: 28.59 (Frame:1361, 34.28s)

Loop 2

* Total Frames: 1985, Total Time: 51.00s
* Average Framerate: 38.92
* Max. Framerate: 55.23 (Frame:284, 6.36s)
* Min. Framerate: 28.14 (Frame:1332, 34.36s)

Loop 3

* Total Frames: 1981, Total Time: 51.00s
* Average Framerate: 38.84
* Max. Framerate: 55.34 (Frame:289, 6.44s)
* Min. Framerate: 28.37 (Frame:1347, 34.39s)

Average Results

* Average Framerate: 39.10
* Max. Framerate: 55.63
* Min. Framerate: 28.43

I'm pretty f'n pleased...need a new system LOFL
 

WT

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Wowzers, that 280 was sitting there twiddling its thumbs waiting for more data to hit the pipe. Great OC on the chip tho !!

:cookie: for you for your efforts. Now let's see how long it takes for a reply on how you shouldn't have bought the GTX280 card.
;)
 

Concillian

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Just a testament that "gaming" CPU is a bit of a misnomer. 28 minimum FPS at 1920x1200 with very high graphical options is enough to satisty well over 90% of the gaming market.

I mean a 3.0GHz S939 dual core is no slouch, but in current terms that's a moderate overclock for a 4850e ($60) Just goes to show that you can get a lot out of a graphics card upgrade.

I've always been one to pair cheap CPUs with better video cards. Seeing this kinda makes me wish I didn't buy my e7200 and had saved money on a 4850e and spent that extra money from the cheaper CPU & mobo on a GTX260 or 4870 instead of my 4850.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Pretty sweet results. Just about dead-on with what I get with my X2 4000+ @ 3Ghz, 8800GT oc'd by about 20%, and running 1680x1050 noAA all settings @ Very High.

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
i wonder how badly my opty 165 @ 1.8 GHz is holding my 4850 back
Overclock that sucker! Hopefully will be good for 2.5 Ghz or more.
 

sandorski

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Far Cry 2 works fine 95% of the time with my current rig: 939 X2 3800(stock), 2gb PC3200, 7900GS, Win XP 64. The only time it sucks is when a Truck or 2 spots me and decides to rush with Guns blazing. Not sure if it's Shaders or Physics, but in those situations my Framerate(total guess) drops to 1 frame every couple seconds. It's a real PITA, but so far it's only killed me once. As long as I can whack them before they get too close I can avoid the issue.
 

nerp

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The 939 nforce4 platform was really the ultimate AMD chipset. The fact that it keeps up to this day is testament to that. I don't see my Opty 180 losing its role as my MCE box for quite some time.
 

daletkine

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Here are some Sapphire HD 4870 512MB Toxic for comparison, running on AM2 platform. And yes, very nice overclock there 413xram!

Run 1
Settings: Demo(Ranch Small), 1920x1200 (60Hz), D3D10, Fixed Time Step(No), Disable Artificial Intelligence(No), Full Screen, Anti-Aliasing(None), VSync(No), Overall Quality(Ultra High), Vegetation(Very High), Shading(Ultra High), Terrain(Ultra High), Geometry(Ultra High), Post FX(High), Texture(Ultra High), Shadow(Ultra High), Ambient(High), Hdr(Yes), Bloom(Yes), Fire(Very High), Physics(Very High), RealTrees(Very High)

Loop 1

* Total Frames: 1447, Total Time: 51.00s
* Average Framerate: 28.37
* Max. Framerate: 39.87 (Frame:1299, 46.84s)
* Min. Framerate: 18.68 (Frame:455, 17.50s)

Loop 2

* Total Frames: 1514, Total Time: 51.02s
* Average Framerate: 29.68
* Max. Framerate: 39.64 (Frame:228, 6.47s)
* Min. Framerate: 22.36 (Frame:633, 20.69s)

Loop 3

* Total Frames: 1755, Total Time: 51.00s
* Average Framerate: 34.41
* Max. Framerate: 47.19 (Frame:1572, 46.97s)
* Min. Framerate: 22.70 (Frame:465, 14.27s)

Loop 4

* Total Frames: 1866, Total Time: 51.01s
* Average Framerate: 36.58
* Max. Framerate: 53.12 (Frame:289, 6.69s)
* Min. Framerate: 25.72 (Frame:658, 17.44s)

Loop 5

* Total Frames: 1833, Total Time: 51.01s
* Average Framerate: 35.94
* Max. Framerate: 55.67 (Frame:275, 6.38s)
* Min. Framerate: 25.44 (Frame:1200, 33.96s)

Average Results

* Average Framerate: 33.00
* Max. Framerate: 43.39
* Min. Framerate: 24.32
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: nerp
The 939 nforce4 platform was really the ultimate AMD chipset. The fact that it keeps up to this day is testament to that. I don't see my Opty 180 losing its role as my MCE box for quite some time.
I dunno. I have the ULI chipset. Not sure if it Overclocks, but this mobo has served me for 3-4 years and I went from AGP to PCI-e with it. It also can take AM2, but I'm hesitant to make that switch as the Mobo's age makes me think it's time is short.
 

exar333

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The only difference between your system and a newer AM2 A64 is the slower DDR ram, but you are talking only a 2-4% system speed difference; mostly negligable for gaming. If your Opty was only hitting 2.5-2.6, you would much more of a bottleneck versus your 3ghz speed. I can't imagine squeezing much more out of a great 939 system than what you have. Even with a watercooled 393/AM2, you are still gonna top out at 3.2-3.3 (if you get a good chip).

You would be good for a few more months and then a upgrade early next year with Deneb and i7 choices galore. :)
 

chizow

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Free performance from overclocking is always nice. :) Do you have any comparison benches without overclocking?

Far Cry 2 CPU Comparison

FC2 does seem to be very CPU intensive and looks to get a pretty big increase just around your stock to OC performance levels (A64 X2 5000 to 6000 shows a huge increase).
 

WT

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I went from AGP to PCI-e with it. It also can take AM2, but I'm hesitant to make that switch as the Mobo's age makes me think it's time is short.
Nonsense, dude ! If you are speaking of the legendary Asrock 939SATAII, that board is hands down my favorite board of all time !! Mines gone from AGP to PCIe, then I added an AM2 riser card/ AMD 5000+B.E. OC'd to 3.2ghz with 4gb of DDR2.

Name me one other board that you provides an upgrade path:

1) Video card interface
2) CPU socket upgrade
3) DDR1 to DDR2 upgrade

An amazing board that keeps up with my e6600@3.2. Its used as my workbench rig, but if you feel its getting old, I will take it off your hands when the time arises.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: WT
I went from AGP to PCI-e with it. It also can take AM2, but I'm hesitant to make that switch as the Mobo's age makes me think it's time is short.
Nonsense, dude ! If you are speaking of the legendary Asrock 939SATAII, that board is hands down my favorite board of all time !! Mines gone from AGP to PCIe, then I added an AM2 riser card/ AMD 5000+B.E. OC'd to 3.2ghz with 4gb of DDR2.

Name me one other board that you provides an upgrade path:

1) Video card interface
2) CPU socket upgrade
3) DDR1 to DDR2 upgrade

An amazing board that keeps up with my e6600@3.2. Its used as my workbench rig, but if you feel its getting old, I will take it off your hands when the time arises.
The way I see it, by the time I upgrade this system I'll probably go with a Quad Core Phenom. Not even sure the Riser card supports it. At any rate, I'll likely buy a Cheap($100ish) Mobo. This Mobo has been great though, no complaints 100% rock stable.
 

413xram

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Originally posted by: WT
Wowzers, that 280 was sitting there twiddling its thumbs waiting for more data to hit the pipe. Great OC on the chip tho !!

:cookie: for you for your efforts. Now let's see how long it takes for a reply on how you shouldn't have bought the GTX280 card.
;)
I got lucky and caught the 280 on zipzoomfly for $299.99 ....$150.00 off no mail in rebate:)) So I doubt that I will regret my purchase..Just givin my OPTY a bit more life. Waiting to see how AMD, Intel, and windows 7 pan out this year.
 

413xram

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Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
I really need a good mobo for my Opteron in sig. A good overclocking mobo.

OP, what stepping did you receive?
Sorry..do not remember lol.....I removed the internal HS to get cooler temps on the opty. I had a 165 opty and a dfi expert MB at 3.1 Ghz. The same Mushkin memory running at about 515 Mhz at 1t!!! Then I removed the ihs and did not remove spacers on water jacket and of course fried the CPU and MB.....just BRILLIANT!!!!
 

Dadofamunky

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Man! a 3 GHZ OC on an S939? with a GTX 280? Damn. Nice frickin' OC.

I resurrected an S939 NForce4-based box with an X2 3800 and OC'd it without ANY effort to 2.5 GHz. Fastest machine in our startup company (they're really cheap with computers). Now if I could get the damn Asus chipset drivers to install into XP (grrr).
 

413xram

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Originally posted by: chizow
Free performance from overclocking is always nice. :) Do you have any comparison benches without overclocking?

Far Cry 2 CPU Comparison

FC2 does seem to be very CPU intensive and looks to get a pretty big increase just around your stock to OC performance levels (A64 X2 5000 to 6000 shows a huge increase).
Opty stock:

CPU Clock 2010.3 MHz (original: 2000 MHz)
CPU Multiplier 10x
CPU FSB 201.0 MHz (original: 200 MHz)
HyperTransport Clock 1005.1 MHz
Memory Timings 2.5-3-3-5 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR) 1T

Settings: Demo(Ranch Small), 1920x1200 (60Hz), D3D10, Fixed Time Step(No), Disable Artificial Intelligence(No), Full Screen, Anti-Aliasing(4x), VSync(No), Overall Quality(Ultra High), Vegetation(Very High), Shading(Ultra High), Terrain(Ultra High), Geometry(Ultra High), Post FX(High), Texture(Ultra High), Shadow(Ultra High), Ambient(High), Hdr(Yes), Bloom(Yes), Fire(Very High), Physics(Very High), RealTrees(Very High)

Loop 1

* Total Frames: 1499, Total Time: 51.02s
* Average Framerate: 29.38
* Max. Framerate: 46.65 (Frame:252, 6.89s)
* Min. Framerate: 18.56 (Frame:1086, 36.70s)

Loop 2

* Total Frames: 1499, Total Time: 51.00s
* Average Framerate: 29.39
* Max. Framerate: 46.22 (Frame:207, 6.27s)
* Min. Framerate: 19.93 (Frame:886, 29.00s)

Loop 3

* Total Frames: 1510, Total Time: 51.03s
* Average Framerate: 29.59
* Max. Framerate: 47.04 (Frame:242, 6.60s)
* Min. Framerate: 18.24 (Frame:715, 23.11s)

Average Results

* Average Framerate: 29.45
* Max. Framerate: 45.99
* Min. Framerate: 20.88

Ouch!! That is just over 1GHz difference
 

413xram

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Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
I really need a good mobo for my Opteron in sig. A good overclocking mobo.

OP, what stepping did you receive?
Sorry...I do have stepping info....CPU Stepping JH-E6
 

JPB

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And I thought I was bottle necked in Far Cry 2 when I had the HD3870 and a Athlon 64 3500+ @ 2.2GHz.
 

Concillian

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Originally posted by: 413xram

Average Results

* Average Framerate: 29.45
* Max. Framerate: 45.99
* Min. Framerate: 20.88

Ouch!! That is just over 1GHz difference
Well, you knew you were CPU limited by a GTX280 on a S939. This just confirms it. Dropping the CPU speed to ~66% of what it was before, you dropped to framerates about 72% of what they were for average and minimum. That's about as close to 1:1 scaling as you're going to find in gaming benchmarks.

max drops by a lower percentage, but really who cares what max framerate is when you're minimum is in danger of dropping below 20.
 

413xram

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More info on "bottleneck" of CPU........not a big suprise. Thought I would throw it out there anyways.

GPU@700MHz..........602MHz is stock.

Run 1
Settings: Demo(Ranch Small), 1920x1200 (60Hz), D3D10, Fixed Time Step(No), Disable Artificial Intelligence(No), Full Screen, Anti-Aliasing(4x), VSync(No), Overall Quality(Ultra High), Vegetation(Very High), Shading(Ultra High), Terrain(Ultra High), Geometry(Ultra High), Post FX(High), Texture(Ultra High), Shadow(Ultra High), Ambient(High), Hdr(Yes), Bloom(Yes), Fire(Very High), Physics(Very High), RealTrees(Very High)

Loop 1

* Total Frames: 2029, Total Time: 51.01s
* Average Framerate: 39.78
* Max. Framerate: 60.55 (Frame:302, 6.46s)
* Min. Framerate: 23.99 (Frame:1244, 30.19s)

Loop 2

* Total Frames: 1978, Total Time: 51.01s
* Average Framerate: 38.78
* Max. Framerate: 59.21 (Frame:313, 6.74s)
* Min. Framerate: 28.12 (Frame:1362, 34.67s)

Loop 3

* Total Frames: 1993, Total Time: 51.02s
* Average Framerate: 39.06
* Max. Framerate: 58.31 (Frame:297, 6.47s)
* Min. Framerate: 27.92 (Frame:1367, 34.86s

Average Results

* Average Framerate: 39.21
* Max. Framerate: 59.12
* Min. Framerate: 28.02

Very happy to have Water cooling or would be buying a new machine..:)

Have a nice Turkey Day everyone!
 

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