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AMD 90nm chips ahead of schedule

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wetcat007

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45 watts of heat at 2.4GHz! 90nm Athlon 64's will be comming very early next year from the looks of it, they have usable chips comming from the production line already with low heat output.

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Originally posted by: wetcat007
45 watts of heat at 2.4GHz! 90nm Athlon 64's will be comming very early next year from the looks of it, they have usable chips comming from the production line already with low heat output.

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thats unplausible, intel had a lead with 90nm tech before amd.
 
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: wetcat007
45 watts of heat at 2.4GHz! 90nm Athlon 64's will be comming very early next year from the looks of it, they have usable chips comming from the production line already with low heat output.

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thats unplausible, intel had a lead with 90nm tech before amd.
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Did you read the article?

They clearly stated why AMD is doing better than expected with this 90nm process....

Reread the article and post again.
 
AMD is using SOI which Intel is not. That is why they are so sucessfull. Read the article, it makes sense, even it Intel does beat them, but it is starting to look like AMD may come out first.
 
Originally posted by: Actaeon
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: wetcat007
45 watts of heat at 2.4GHz! 90nm Athlon 64's will be comming very early next year from the looks of it, they have usable chips comming from the production line already with low heat output.

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thats unplausible, intel had a lead with 90nm tech before amd.
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Did you read the article?

They clearly stated why AMD is doing better than expected with this 90nm process....

Reread the article and post again.
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ok, i cheated. i will read now. =)
 
Originally posted by: Ionizer86
I skimmed it but I didn't find an answer to this:

Are they shrinking K8's or are K7's also getting a shrink?
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i think their gonna kill socket A, no new tech will go into it. victoria, paris, etcc.. will replace it for value market
 
woo that's good for AMD.

On a side note i did a 2500+ Barton rig build and a P4C 3GHZ and i was soo amazed how small the CPUS were. it's getting insanely small for the power they are producing.
 
Looks like IBM is doing well in this area right now. They have this partnership helping AMD, Apple's new G5 and chips for the Gamecube, xbox2 and PS3.
 
Eh? The latest AMD roadmaps and comments from the analyst conference held on November 4, 2003 indicate that AMD"s 90nm is delayed 3-6 months and the first 90nm AMD CPUs won't be seen till late summer at best and certainly after Intel.
 
Originally posted by: Accord99
Eh? The latest AMD roadmaps and comments from the analyst conference held on November 4, 2003 indicate that AMD"s 90nm is delayed 3-6 months and the first 90nm AMD CPUs won't be seen till late summer at best and certainly after Intel.
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Really? Do you have the notes, I don't remember that?

Oh, and K7 cores will go 90nm for sure, in case anyone's wondering.
 
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Originally posted by: Accord99
Eh? The latest AMD roadmaps and comments from the analyst conference held on November 4, 2003 indicate that AMD"s 90nm is delayed 3-6 months and the first 90nm AMD CPUs won't be seen till late summer at best and certainly after Intel.
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Really? Do you have the notes, I don't remember that?

Oh, and K7 cores will go 90nm for sure, in case anyone's wondering.
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20031107124409.html

there is no new socket 462 chips. all of the newer chips will be at least 754.
 
Personally I seriously think Mr. Whittington is smokin some of the good stuff.

However if it's true and we see these early in '04 then I definately say More Power to AMD!!!! It's about time someone finally knocks Intel down a few notches. AMD has been doing 'well' against Intel but if they pull this off and Intel doesn't do anything spectacular to pull Prescott in line (thermally) then this'll be a serious slap in Intel's face.

Thorin
 
This is good news if it's true, especially with the attention heat and noise is getting industry wide. If AMD comes out touting performance with the bonus of ultra low heat/noise output, it might help them gain some real retail market presence.
 
I love to see AMD doing well but I seriously doubt that this will be a smack in the face for Intel. Most users simply don't care about the technology behind the chip. Dell will still sell only Intel systems, market share may change slightly but thats it.
 
Originally posted by: Accord99
Eh? The latest AMD roadmaps and comments from the analyst conference held on November 4, 2003 indicate that AMD"s 90nm is delayed 3-6 months and the first 90nm AMD CPUs won't be seen till late summer at best and certainly after Intel.
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That's pretty much what the article says...
The maturity of AMD's 90nm process, says Whittington in a note to customers, will allow it to sample 90nm Opterons this year and begin volume wafer starts sometime during the first half of 2004...
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Keep in mind that "begin volume wafer starts" and delivery to retail are very different things. Product usually hits retail about a year after initial sampling, and about six months after volume wafer starts begin. Of course that all depends on yields, bin splits, manufacturing strategies for market needs, etc... All of which really cannot be accurately predicted at this stage.
 
Am I the only one that notices that this information is from the register (sister "publication" of the inquirer)? First off, most of their stuff is always just personal opinion/guesses it seems like. Second, if it hasn't become obvious to everyone by now that they're biased against Intel and towards AMD then I'm not sure how it can become anymore obvious.

Listening to the Inquirer when it comes to Intel/AMD news is like getting a guy to rate two girls when he's currently dating one of them and the other is an ex-gf that he had a bad break up with. There's no way you're going to get a fair and impartial view.
 
Am I the only one that notices that this information is from the register (sister "publication" of the inquirer)?
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Nope, I noticed it too... anything from the Inquirer or it's "associates" should be taken with a grain of salt.
 
An A64 3500+ with only 45-50W would be a great chip for a quiet yet fast gaming rig, too bad we can't buy it until next summer.
 
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