AMD 761/VIA 686B Drivers from which site??

[MrWhiteUK]

I will soon be getting the Gigabyte DDR board which uses the above chipset.

Which drivers do I use and from which site (I know there on the disc but I mean when I update)

The manual says I need:

1. AMD AGP Miniport driver

Would I get this from AMD's site?

2. Via IDE Bus Master

Would this be the 4 in 1 drivers from VIA's site.
Won't it install the via northbridge/agp stuff too? which I don't want.



Many thanks

 

[kcbass]

AVOID VIA 686B CHIPSET AT ALL COSTS!!! It causese nothing but trouble in terms of sound. If you're looking for a ddr board, I would duggest the k7t266 pro from MSI.

 

[buck]

<< AVOID VIA 686B CHIPSET AT ALL COSTS!!! It causese nothing but trouble in terms of sound. If you're looking for a ddr board, I would duggest the k7t266 pro from MSI. >>


Actually, that mobo is less stable, I would recomend the epox 8k7a, its very sweet and no lockups yet!
Not sure where to get the drivers though, I was hoping for an answer also.

 

[dolphins]

Yes you use the 4 in 1 drivers from viatech.com site grab the 4.31 and install them immediately after installing your operating system once youve downloaded them and the install process begins just check the ones your going to use and uncheck the ones your not in the install process that starts up. of the 4 uncheck the agp driver and the irq routing driver this second one is only used in win98 installs so if your using win2000 you dont need it if you are using win98 then install it also. Second on the viatech site you will also want to install the USB filter driver ver. 1.08 thats found at the bottom of the driver download page again at viatech.com . After youve installed that and rebooted you will have 2 other things to install both from AMDs site the first one being the agp miniport driver found AMD system configuration again choose the one that corresponds to your operating system. The second one you install and this is only for win2000 is the registry patch found here AMD win2k patch again this is only necessary for win 2000. after that just reboot and begin installing all other drivers and OS patches. Again the point that needs to be stressed is that you must install the 4 in 1 drivers immediately after installing the operating system, nothing should come before that. Um one more thing to add after installing the OS install winzip first without that your not going to be able to install the 4 in1 which is a zip file

 

[dolphins]

I second kcbass choose another sound card other than an sb live whatever. Its a known problem matched with the 686b southbridge, i chose the turtle beach santa cruz after running into problems with the sb live and have been happy ever since.

 

[MrWhiteUK]

I won't be getting a sound card staright away anyway.

What does the USB patch do?

I have an A7V at the mo which has the 686a southbridge and I have a SBLive card, no probs.

There's not much choice about the 686B, theres no ONLY AMD boards out, is there? and I definietley don't want VIA for both.

I think people are over reacting a little over this whole 686b/SBLive issue, IMO.

Thanks.

 

[Noriaki]

Don't use the Via 4in1s. They have a Via AGP MiniPort which you can't use because you'll have an AMD north brdige. You need the AMD AGP MiniPort. You want the IDE Drivers from the 4in1s, and the Machine.INF can't hurt. Not sure about the IRQ router...but you defiantely don't want Via's AGP.

I have an AMD751/Via686A board now, I use the AMD AGP MiniPort and Via's IDE Busmaster drivers and Machine.INF.
I have an AMD761/Via686B board sitting my drawer (waiting for my DDR RAM), and I plan to use those same 3 drivers.
Both INF and IDE are parts of the 4in1s, but be careful not to install the whole package.

Do not use the Via AGP driver.

 

[Scope]

I have and Asus A7M266 and it works fine with my SB Live and I don't have any problems with my soutbridge. Last night I transfered 30 gigs of data across that damn thing from one Hd to another and nothing was corrupted. Why are people so damn quick to always mention that damn soutbridge problem when a lot of them have never even used the board that they're bashing?
Scope!

 

[MrWhiteUK]

To simplify:

AMD AGP driver from AMD site

IDE driver from the 4 in 1's from VIA's site.


Will the 4 in 1 detect whci drivers to install or will I have to uncheck the boxes for agp etc.


Any ideas on the USB patch, what does it do?

 

[dolphins]

If you download the 4 in 1 and start the install you can unselect the ones you dont want to use its pretty simple really. Just a simple use of the noggin will tell you to uncheck the ones you dont need. Again just unselect the agp driver to install and obviously uncheck the irq routing driver for anything other than win95/98.

The irq driver does this: IRQ Routing ? Allows Windows&Ograve; 98 to correctly recognize VIA chipset IRQ Routing tables. This utility is not required for other Operating Systems. So this is not necessary in a win 2000 install.

Vias site states only that the usb patch enables usb functions and nothing else , bummer.

As for anyone getting hot and bothered about the sblive issue, hey its personal preference i and alot of others have had problems with the combination some havent but whether its been blown out of proportion or not there is an ongoing attempt by the mobo makers and via itself to address the issue so again its not a figment of peoples imaginations, we arent talking about ufos here the problem does exist for some. So why pay 40 bucks for an sb live to find out that you have the problems exhibited and then be forced to buy another card, when in fact other users have switched to a card like the santa cruz and have found that the problems disappears. To each his own just trying to pass on some personal experience with this combo., youve got your own mind choose what you wish.

 

[MrWhiteUK]

I will probably be using WinME, If I rember rightly it detects which ones I don't need (I'm not talking about the AGP one)


I understand what your saying, I know there's an issue with the 686B, but people seem to be blaming EVERY problem they've had in the last 6 months on it,

My ink comes out streaky on some print outs, must be that 686/SBLive issue!

I got a BSOD the other day, must be that 686/SBLive issue!

My fonts have changed in Word, must be that 686/SBLive issue!

Some people:frown:

 

[dolphins]

I'm not sure on the auto detect just be sure to doublecheck when it starts installing, if the agp driver is checked then by all means uncheck it and go on with the installation.

I ran into a problem with the 686b and sblive during gaming, One of the issues is hard lockups and a game sound loop at first i didnt know what to make of it till i read about the other problems people were having and found that this was one of them. I quickly turned around and purchased the aforementioned card and bingo problem gone. So at least for me it solved my difficulty.

 

[MrWhiteUK]

I will just install the AMD driver, then the 4 in 1 but ONLY check the IDE box just to be on the safe side.

I'm still not sure what the USB patch does, I've been running Via KT133 for a while now without it and my USB devices work fine.


Many thanks

 

[dolphins]

I think you might be playing it a little to safe do a little more research on the different drivers in the package seeing as how this has to be installed before anything else why go through the trouble of having to format reinstall. you might end up saving a penny and being pound foolish. Good luck.

 

[Mem]

<< I'm still not sure what the USB patch does >>




It`s a Via USB filter driver


<< Please Note: There is some confusion as to whether or not the USB Filter Driver is required for Operating Systems other than Win95. The VIA USB filter driver is REQUIRED for ALL Windows Operating Systems, (Whether or not this driver is effective is another story). All information to the contrary is in error. The asterisk next to the USB Filter Driver on the recently revamped VIA Driver Page, refers to the fact that USB is only available on Win95 version B &amp; C, not that the filter driver only applies to Win95 versions B &amp; C,

You MUST install the USB Filter Driver This driver adds support for USB devices to all VIA chipsets. All Windows USB capable Operating Systems except Windows 95 B &amp; C. >>