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The dual issue SPs really threw the rumor mill for a huge loop, everything was being rumored as having twice as many SPs as they actually have and now it turns out that dual issue basically doesn't do anything in most if not all circumstances.
 

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PCIe 3 8X will be a problem going forward. Forspoken, Diablo 4, Hogwarts, and Spiderman all suffer significantly, using the 7600 in gen 3.

 
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oh, wait... how can 8Gb be enough? Who would have thought ...

Well, besides the games that use RT. Like AG's results it depends on the game. These numbers are nice and prove that really any "entry level card" with 8GB of ram should be at $200 or so, $250 being generous as none of them are really gonna be great for more than two years.

Also, while I get his testing method of using the same cpu/mobo just changing pci-e limits, I don't agree that those older pci-e 3.0 systems will be cpu bottle necked. Certainly not anything Intel 9th or 10th gen nor Ryzen 3000.
 

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Well, besides the games that use RT. Like AG's results it depends on the game. These numbers are nice and prove that really any "entry level card" with 8GB of ram should be at $200 or so, $250 being generous as none of them are really gonna be great for more than two years.

Also, while I get his testing method of using the same cpu/mobo just changing pci-e limits, I don't agree that those older pci-e 3.0 systems will be cpu bottle necked. Certainly not anything Intel 9th or 10th gen nor Ryzen 3000.
There is a lot of misinformation out there. Even with the heavy hitter cards 6800xt and above the performance difference was 1% between PCIe-3 and PCIe-4.

Anybody know when the 7600xt will be released? I have found zero information on a 7600xt variant.
 

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Anybody know when the 7600xt will be released? I have found zero information on a 7600xt variant.

Don't see why there would be given that the 7600 is the full one. Still figure that earlier rumor is true, that (if they bother) that the cut N33 would be 7500 and a 16 GB clamshell would be 7700.
 

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AMD needs to go back to RDNA 1 and figure out where things went right. Pricing was perfect for the value they offered. The sad part (AMD) just wanted to see what their new 7nm silicon could do on RDNA 1. It was thought that RDNA 2 would be where they would give Nvidia a run for their money. RDNA 1 was a test/dry run that produced excellent results based on price.
Don't really agree that pricing was all that great for RDNA1. 5700 XT was $400 which was a huge jump in price from the previous gen midrange Polaris cards and only $100 cheaper than the ~15% faster RTX 2070 Super.
 
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Don't really agree that pricing was all that great for RDNA1. 5700 XT was $400 which was a huge jump in price from the previous gen midrange Polaris cards and only $100 cheaper than the ~15% faster RTX 2070 Super.
$100 cheaper means the 2070S was 15% faster but 25% more expensive. That might be a fair cut given the teething problems they had with early RDNA1 drivers, but that also meant that by the time Ampere launched the performance gap had decreased to 5-10%. The 5700XT ended up being a pretty good card overall.
 
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I think you're all correct. Navi cards were an example of fine wine but also pay Nvidia prices (or just under) to beta test our new hardware design. The 5700 was really the best deal of the bunch, especially after the 5600XT came out being squeezed in between that and a 2060 6GB. The benefit being it was 8GB and could get close to the XT's perf.
 

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$100 cheaper means the 2070S was 15% faster but 25% more expensive. That might be a fair cut given the teething problems they had with early RDNA1 drivers, but that also meant that by the time Ampere launched the performance gap had decreased to 5-10%. The 5700XT ended up being a pretty good card overall.
It was good compared to Ampere but the 5700 XT launch was precisely when AMD began following Nvidia's lead in jacking up prices of their midrange cards. Dude I quoted said the 5700 XT was perfectly priced, which it wasn't. The RX 480/580 8GB were AMD's last truly great price to performance cards.
 

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It was good compared to Ampere but the 5700 XT launch was precisely when AMD began following Nvidia's lead in jacking up prices of their midrange cards. Dude I quoted said the 5700 XT was perfectly priced, which it wasn't. The RX 480/580 8GB were AMD's last truly great price to performance cards.
The 5700 got down to $292 and the 5700xt got down to $330-350. People are forgetting cards used to be significantly discounted when sales go down or the card ages. I got a GTX 970 with 2 free games for $280. The MSRP on the 970 started out at $400.
 

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The 5700 got down to $292 and the 5700xt got down to $330-350. People are forgetting cards used to be significantly discounted when sales go down or the card ages. I got a GTX 970 with 2 free games for $280. The MSRP on the 970 started out at $400.
GTX 970 started at $330 and even higher end models like Gigabyte G1 Gaming were $350 to $360. I paid $340 for mine in 2014. 6700 XT is down to $310 now but I'm not going to call it some amazing price to performance card either when RTX 480/580 8GB were $240 at launch.
 
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Ranulf

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Yeah, the 970 was $330 and I paid about $350 for a 3 fan card in spring/summer 2015 with free games.
Remember BIOS flashing the reference non-XT card to an XT?

I remember reading about it. I never did pick up a navi card though to try.
 

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Yeah, the 970 was $330 and I paid about $350 for a 3 fan card in spring/summer 2015 with free games.


I remember reading about it. I never did pick up a navi card though to try.
Yeah I got Far Cry 4 with my 970 which was one of the reasons I ended up picking it over the R9 290 / 290x. The 290 was far and away the best deal at the time though, as you could even get the Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 for $230 new in 2014. Never going to see a gpu deal like that ever again I'm guessing.
 
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The AIB card models, yes, not so much the XT model of the reference blower, which often overheated.
What did you expect from a bent cooler? ;)
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The AIB card models, yes, not so much the XT model of the reference blower, which often overheated.
First and last time I preordered a card. Only card I ever sent back as well. It was unusable garbage on launch day. I had the Sapphire branded reference model.

Let's clear up the derp while we are at it. Of course a 6800XT doesn't tank, 16x gets enough bandwidth at 3.0. 8x no longer does in games that leverage it. The Spiderman and Hogwarts performance is reminiscent of the 6400 and 6500 when they tank at 4x. It's a problem. 7600 is yet another card PCIe 3 board or CPU owners are best avoiding. E.G. I would not pair it with my 5700G.
 

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AMD and its partners have taught us to ignore the cards at launch. Wait a couple of months and get a nice discount. SMDH.