AMD 65nm AM2 part coming in june ?? looks like !!

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JAG87

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I dont know how reliable this is, but the inquirer reported this german site putting up AM2 processors for pre order, all their prices showed up, and the most shocking thing... Semprons are Manila 90nm, the A64 is Orleans 90nm, the FX is Windsor 90nm, and all the X2s are listed as Brisbane 65nm...

Now, at first you might say they messed up and confused windsor with brisbane, but heck they got it right for the FX, and all the X2s are wrong? I think AMD might be jumping on the 65nm wagon...

This could explain those 35W TDP ratings for some of the X2s on the roadmaps, maybe the 89W X2 are the Windsor cores, and the 35W ones are the Brisbane cores... Im off to my local church to light a candle...

lets wait and see...

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31233

http://www.geizhals.at/eu/?cat=cpuamdam2

 
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Vegitto

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I think you're right. My local shop told me they were Brisbane's too. Didn't know if they were 90 or 65nm, though.
 
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I see that they're Brisbanes but not if they're still 90nm or fell to 65nm yet..

65 WOULD explain the 35W but... Hmm.
 
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They could've kept it 90 to get it out earlier..

Who knows. Maybe they DID get it wrong there. Be nice to find out.
 
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Remember that they're ramping up A64 and Semprons at the new Fab 32. Perhaps at the old Fab they switched over to 65 nm?
 
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I'm really hoping for 65nm. However, I'm thinking of selling my DFI LanParty Ultra-D and AMD Opteron 165 if Conroe really is what it's supposed to be :p..
 
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I don' think AMD has 65nm X2 ready at this time, but it would be nice if they did actually have em, well the launch is not too far off, we will know in a month or so...

No from the looks of that German site it seems the mistake they are making is that they think Brisbane means the 2x512KB version of Windsor...

Like manchester to Toledo for Socket 939. When in fact I think all Socket AM2 X2's are based on the Windsor core for now and there are no reduced cache vore variants. They just disable cache.
 
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the Chase

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Originally posted by: coldpower27
I don' think AMD has 65nm X2 ready at this time, but it would be nice if they did actually have em, well the launch is not too far off, we will know in a month or so...

No from the looks of that German site it seems the mistake they are making is that they think Brisbane means the 2x512KB version of Windsor...

Like manchester to Toledo for Socket 939. When in fact I think all Socket AM2 X2's are based on the Windsor core for now and there are no reduced cache vore variants. They just disable cache.
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Good catch- although they are calling the 4000 version Brisbane also I think this website is just making a mistake.
 
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Originally posted by: Vegitto
I'm really hoping for 65nm. However, I'm thinking of selling my DFI LanParty Ultra-D and AMD Opteron 165 if Conroe really is what it's supposed to be :p..
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I was thinking of doing the same thing. Conroe would be the perfect opportunity to test the waters in Intel-land.
 
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I'm thinking I should have held off on my comp... I just built one not that long ago but I may end up upgrading to AM2 sooner than I thought....
 
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90nm, you won't see any 65nm desktop chips till 2007, AMD wants to cement its gains in the server segment first and will concentrate 65nm there initially, then notebooks, and lastly desktops.
 
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JAG87

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Originally posted by: coldpower27
I don' think AMD has 65nm X2 ready at this time, but it would be nice if they did actually have em, well the launch is not too far off, we will know in a month or so...

No from the looks of that German site it seems the mistake they are making is that they think Brisbane means the 2x512KB version of Windsor...

Like manchester to Toledo for Socket 939. When in fact I think all Socket AM2 X2's are based on the Windsor core for now and there are no reduced cache vore variants. They just disable cache.
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I think your rite... shiat, there goes my happiness. thanks. jk ;)
 
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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
I'm thinking I should have held off on my comp... I just built one not that long ago but I may end up upgrading to AM2 sooner than I thought....
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Why?? what is AM2 offering you?? 2-5%?? tweak your ram and get that.....


I wouldn't hold off for anything in the AM2 product line...

Now 65nm would be different, but even rev F is not likely to produce much better then 2.9-3.0 max on high end air...
 
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Originally posted by: BrownTown
90nm, you won't see any 65nm desktop chips till 2007, AMD wants to cement its gains in the server segment first and will concentrate 65nm there initially, then notebooks, and lastly desktops.
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I agree; while we don't know the precise date of 65nm introduction for AMD (which could well be Q3-4 this year); AMD has said time and again that the desktop components won't receive 65nm or the new core until Q1-07. The 65nm produced this year will probably all going to opterons; given the limited volume that the initial production will bring.
 
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Originally posted by: Hard Ball
Originally posted by: BrownTown
90nm, you won't see any 65nm desktop chips till 2007, AMD wants to cement its gains in the server segment first and will concentrate 65nm there initially, then notebooks, and lastly desktops.
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I agree; while we don't know the precise date of 65nm introduction for AMD (which could well be Q3-4 this year); AMD has said time and again that the desktop components won't receive 65nm or the new core until Q1-07. The 65nm produced this year will probably all going to opterons; given the limited volume that the initial production will bring.
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Agreed!!!
 
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the Chase

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I agree also, and not to overspeculate this to death, but... Where would that website even come up with the Brisbane name to list in their ad? I doubt they are AMD fans and follow news on future cores to have the name pop into their mind to put in the ad. Did AMD send them some literature on their future processors and that's where they got it? I dunno maybe..
 
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the Chase

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Originally posted by: Vegitto
I think you're right. My local shop told me they were Brisbane's too. Didn't know if they were 90 or 65nm, though.
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When did they mention this to you? Can you ask them again if the 1st wave of AM2 X2's are the Brisbane cores? Even if the perf. didn't skyrocket because of the die shrink it would still be quite an accomplishment for AMD.
 
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coldpower27

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Originally posted by: the Chase
Originally posted by: Vegitto
I think you're right. My local shop told me they were Brisbane's too. Didn't know if they were 90 or 65nm, though.
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When did they mention this to you? Can you ask them again if the 1st wave of AM2 X2's are the Brisbane cores? Even if the perf. didn't skyrocket because of the die shrink it would still be quite an accomplishment for AMD.
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There is another possibility, that Brisbane is indeed what the mistake is showing a 2x512KB part of Socket AM2, but on the 90nm node instead of the 65nm that the roadmaps showed.
 
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the Chase

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Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: the Chase
Originally posted by: Vegitto
I think you're right. My local shop told me they were Brisbane's too. Didn't know if they were 90 or 65nm, though.
Click to expand...

When did they mention this to you? Can you ask them again if the 1st wave of AM2 X2's are the Brisbane cores? Even if the perf. didn't skyrocket because of the die shrink it would still be quite an accomplishment for AMD.
Click to expand...

There is another possibility, that Brisbane is indeed what the mistake is showing a 2x512KB part of Socket AM2, but on the 90nm node instead of the 65nm that the roadmaps showed.
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So you mean they are the Brisbane core but on the 90nm process instead of on the 65nm process like the past roadmaps on Brisbane showed?
 
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coldpower27

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Originally posted by: the Chase
Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: the Chase
Originally posted by: Vegitto
I think you're right. My local shop told me they were Brisbane's too. Didn't know if they were 90 or 65nm, though.
Click to expand...

When did they mention this to you? Can you ask them again if the 1st wave of AM2 X2's are the Brisbane cores? Even if the perf. didn't skyrocket because of the die shrink it would still be quite an accomplishment for AMD.
Click to expand...

There is another possibility, that Brisbane is indeed what the mistake is showing a 2x512KB part of Socket AM2, but on the 90nm node instead of the 65nm that the roadmaps showed.
Click to expand...

So you mean they are the Brisbane core but on the 90nm process instead of on the 65nm process like the past roadmaps on Brisbane showed?
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You got the right idea.
 
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If the max AM2 that's being offered is 2.8ghz dual core 1mb L2 cache, why bother?

Get an X2, they start 1mb L2 cache at 4400+, don't they?

O/C one of those and get AM2 speeds :shrug: IMO AM2 is just a daft attempt to screw people out of more money, for now. I'll bet with a high end 939 setup you can ride out the AM2 and upgrade when they cough out the socket after that.
 
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