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AMD 64 Winchesters VS Newcastles VS Clawhammer

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SylEm

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I heard that the winchesters are better...the only retail ones I can find are Clawhammers. Why are supposedly winchesters better? All I can find are OEM versions of Winchesters and Newcastles. Can someone help me out with this?

If Winchesters are better, then i'm a little worried about getting one because its OEM, and I heard most OEM things are fine, just not to get OEM processors.

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Winchesters are made on the 90nm proccess which makes them run cooler, thus requiring less voltage. The high end A64s are currently based off the ClawHammer core at 130nm. NewCastles are just, ick.
Most people suggest getting an OEM proc because you will get an AMD warranty and not just the distributer's warranty.
And OEM warranties are always shorter than AMD's normal warranty.
 
Retail Winchester are all over the place. Winchesters are .9 cores, the others are .13. Winchester are the newest cores.

Anyone who sells CPU's will have retail Winchesters.
 
Originally posted by: Kensai
Winchesters are made on the 90nm proccess which makes them run cooler, thus requiring less voltage. The high end A64s are currently based off the ClawHammer core at 130nm. NewCastles are just, ick.
Most people suggest getting an OEM proc because you will get an AMD warranty and not just the distributer's warranty.
And OEM warranties are always shorter than AMD's normal warranty.
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^^But if I have a powerful enough power source that doesn't really matter does it? They will run at the same speeds right?

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Originally posted by: SylEm
Originally posted by: Kensai
Winchesters are made on the 90nm proccess which makes them run cooler, thus requiring less voltage. The high end A64s are currently based off the ClawHammer core at 130nm. NewCastles are just, ick.
Most people suggest getting an OEM proc because you will get an AMD warranty and not just the distributer's warranty.
And OEM warranties are always shorter than AMD's normal warranty.
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^^But if I have a powerful enough power source that doesn't really matter does it? They will run at the same speeds right?

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Winchesters were very popular among overclockers (and they still are, though perhaps a little less with the discouraging news regarding the latest steppings) because they often hit higher clock speeds compared to their clawhammer and newcastle counterparts. The low power consumption of the winchesters are part of the reason that they overclock well because they generate less heat at stock speeds and thus require less cooling when overclocked.

If you are not an overclocker, I would still recommend a winchester for speeds up to 3800+ (2.4ghz). Unfortunately there are no winchesters that are higher than this speed; if you want 2.6ghz chip you need to get an FX-55 which is a clawhammer. Also, all winchester cores are socket 939. If you have an existing socket 754 motherboard and do not want to upgrade, your choices are only clawhammer and newcastle.

 
Well some people are saying new 3500+ retail processors based on the clawhammer cores are actually fx-53's.
 
Clawhammers (FX55 and 4000+) are currently the best.

Winchesters tend to be the best air overclockers although some users have gotten terrible results.

Newcastles are not bad overclockers on air (dont usually go as high as winnies) but they do well under phase change (unlike winnies).

Venice will be here in a few weeks and this discussion will be moot.
 
Originally posted by: Ben88
Well some people are saying new 3500+ retail processors based on the clawhammer cores are actually fx-53's.
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yup yup

they overclock decently well...

you can see my sig for my chip...

but if you're not overclocking, the winchester is the way to go cuz of cost and temperature...
 
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