AMD 3000 venice vs axp mobile 2400

[SEAL62505]

I used to keep up to date on the latest new cpu's but haven't for quite some time. I like to play game and am thinking about upgrading from an nf2 system to a nf4 system. I currently have an axp mobile oc'ed to 2300mhz. How would that compare to a 3000 venice? I know the venice would be clocked a lot slower.

Thanks in advance for any input!

 

[coomar]

depends on the usage, for gaming the videocard is the end-all

 

[karma4jake]

ur mobile would keep up with a stock venice

 

[TrueWisdom]

If you're planning on overclocking get a Venice--2300MHz out of the box is pretty par for the course, but just make sure you get the E4 stepping and not the E6. The A64 is a much better overall architecture than the AXP; the upgrade's well worth it.

 

[Zap]

As coomar said. That being said, the best video cards use PCIe and AFAIK there are no PCIe boards for socket A.

The Venice would likely outperform the 2.3GHz Barton even at default 1.8MHz. At a typical 2.4GHz or higher overclock the Venice would outright spank the Barton up the stairs, out the window and back down to the sidewalk. The Venice cores also run cooler.

 

[win32asmguy]

If you switch make sure to get a good video card. That is the whole point of switching. I went from AXP to A64 (a venice on a 939 nf3 mobo) and didn't notice much speed increase in games. My video card was a 6800 NU in both systems. Once I switched to PCIe last weekend, using the same venice chip, but now with a 7800GT, then gaming performance increased a good 50%.

 

[SEAL62505]

That is exactly the graphics card I have - 6800nu. I run mine 16x6 without any problems. I would have to upgrade the graphics anyways (because nf4 doesn't have agp), correct?

 

[coomar]

nf4 is pci-e, nf3 is agp

you can get both in socket 939

the better boards are nf4

 

[Mogadon]

To find the equivalent A64 speed compared to AXP speed, take the MHz speed of the AXP and divide it by 1.25.

eg. 2300 / 1.25 = 1840 - which is the equivalent of an A64 3000+ at stock.

Of course if you o/c your 3000+ you'll likely hit 2.5GHz at least which is the equivalent of an AXP at 3.1GHz.

 

[SEAL62505]

is that formula for a specific core (or all a64)?

Thanks!

 

[Mogadon]

According to Zebo that's 'generally' specific for all A64's, of course different cache sizes will influence this but it gives you a ballpark figure.

 

[coomar]

they also run significantly cooler

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: coomar
they also run significantly cooler

Yeah, nobody mentioned that. :roll:

For the OP, there's one board that has PCIe and (useable) AGP, the Asrock 939SATA2 or something. It's been pretty popular for upgraders with decent AGP cards, as good as any other board with any other chipset. It's a bit weaker than the best Nforce4 overclockers in unmodded overclocking.