Amd 2200+ Thornton with K7VTA3 REV 8 $74.99

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S13SilviaK

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It's a good deal as is, but most thorton's after week 39 are now locked, and it's about 50/50 on whether or not the extra cache is going to be corrupt.

Just don't expect to have a 2800+ barton for $30.

 

Alessandro

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Have people been getting unlocked ones from this deal? I thought I saw one or two, but didn't know for sure. Anyone who has gotten in on this, if you could post what store and if your chip was locked that would be great.
 

elnicoya100

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This was only a one day sale, so probably not a lot people bought this combo, i bought mine late that day.
 

fwtong

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there are so many Fry's mobo combo threads... maybe someone should consolidate....
 

NasdaqTrader889

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I just got back from my local Fry's because I looked at the OC ad for TODAY and it had the 2200+ combo listed as still on sale for Nov.19 and 20 Well, when I get there the ad for this store has another combo, 2400+/Albatron mobo, and I asked if the had any unadvertised combos. They clerk said no and that they would not honor the ad from southern CA. I thought they always had the same combos on sale at all Fry's.
 

puppyfriend

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No, Fry's in different Metro areas have different sales.

David

Originally posted by: NasdaqTrader889
I just got back from my local Fry's because I looked at the OC ad for TODAY and it had the 2200+ combo listed as still on sale for Nov.19 and 20 Well, when I get there the ad for this store has another combo, 2400+/Albatron mobo, and I asked if the had any unadvertised combos. They clerk said no and that they would not honor the ad from southern CA. I thought they always had the same combos on sale at all Fry's.

 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: puppyfriend
No, Fry's in different Metro areas have different sales.

David

Originally posted by: NasdaqTrader889
I just got back from my local Fry's because I looked at the OC ad for TODAY and it had the 2200+ combo listed as still on sale for Nov.19 and 20 Well, when I get there the ad for this store has another combo, 2400+/Albatron mobo, and I asked if the had any unadvertised combos. They clerk said no and that they would not honor the ad from southern CA. I thought they always had the same combos on sale at all Fry's.

yup..Fry's Las Vegas is a different market than Fry's California. So they wont pricematch their own stores :(
 

kwo

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Ok, so if it's so *easy* to turn a "Thorton" into a "Barton"..then why is AMD doing that in the first place? If the chip is fully functional, then **THEY"RE** taking a price hit by selling it more cheaply.

I'm thinking there's got to be *something* wrong with that extra 256..or the CPU being able to access that extra 256....???
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: kwo
Ok, so if it's so *easy* to turn a "Thorton" into a "Barton"..then why is AMD doing that in the first place? If the chip is fully functional, then **THEY"RE** taking a price hit by selling it more cheaply.

I'm thinking there's got to be *something* wrong with that extra 256..or the CPU being able to access that extra 256....???

any programs to test that extra 256k cache?
 

schuang74

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Originally posted by: kwo
Ok, so if it's so *easy* to turn a "Thorton" into a "Barton"..then why is AMD doing that in the first place? If the chip is fully functional, then **THEY"RE** taking a price hit by selling it more cheaply.

I'm thinking there's got to be *something* wrong with that extra 256..or the CPU being able to access that extra 256....???

..... hmm apparently you don't buy too many CPU's. Locking and rebadging is common place in CPU's. Think of it this way, Processors (INTEL and AMD) come in a string of different clock speeds. It would not be cost effective for a company like AMD or INTEL to create a fabrication plant for each CPU based on clock speed. Insted they just create fabs for the specific family. Based on the quality of production, the processors are the sorted to their prospecitve speeds. Processor manufactureres are continually optimizing their production processes, as they do this then there production quality increases. In other words many times you get a faster processor, locked at a lower speed. It doesn't cost AMD any more or any less money to produce a Thorton compaired to a Barton. Lower clock speeds exist to meet the demand for people who may not want to spend that much money, and for OEM's to diversify their product line and market them accordingly.

Thats why people are able to push a Barton 2500+ to Barton 3200+ speeds consistantly without any special cooling or voltage increases. Where as several months ago it was hit or miss with the 2500+.

Or if you look at the INTEL side, it is now common place to push a 2.4GHz P4 HT processor to 3.2GHz or higher.

From my understanding with the Thornton processor, if its locked then you may have bridge a few contacts to "unlock" the extra 256 L2.

This kind of stuff happens all the time. Then only down side to this, is that if technically voids your warantee.
 

kwo

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Originally posted by: schuang74


..... hmm apparently you don't buy too many CPU's.

Nope... I sure don't...unlike some people who seem to have money they can blow into the wind at all times, I have things like a family to sustain - all on a relatively low income. So, no..I usually buy inexpensively & usually last years technology (gotta love the FS&T forum!!) and very sporadically as time and budget permits.....

Locking and rebadging is common place in CPU's. Think of it this way, Processors (INTEL and AMD) come in a string of different clock speeds. It would not be cost effective for a company like AMD or INTEL to create a fabrication plant for each CPU based on clock speed. Insted they just create fabs for the specific family. Based on the quality of production, the processors are the sorted to their prospecitve speeds. Processor manufactureres are continually optimizing their production processes, as they do this then there production quality increases. In other words many times you get a faster processor, locked at a lower speed. It doesn't cost AMD any more or any less money to produce a Thorton compaired to a Barton.

I realize that it doesn't necessarily cost more to *make* the processor, it just seems like they lose money as their production quality increases yet they continually take higher "binned" processors and rebadge at lower specs, as opposed to simply phasing out the lower end processors as the production quality increases and yields of high-end processors increase.

Lower clock speeds exist to meet the demand for people who may not want to spend that much money, and for OEM's to diversify their product line and market them accordingly.

Ahh...yes...people like me! :cool: I guess that's how they have to operate in order to maintain a presence in multple markets....as you said, deliberately making "lower end processors" just isn't cost-effective for them...
 

multifacitedonyx

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Has anyone bought this combo in Austin TX? I spoke with the sales rep there and he says all they have is Thoroughbred, no thorton. I find it had to believe that this store does not have thortons, while so many others do. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks