AMD 12-core opteron available on ebay!

[wwswimming]

http://www.tyan.com/product_SKU_spec.aspx?ProductType=MB&pid=638&SKU=600000075

4 CPU Tyan Opteron, takes 6 core CPU's.

logical candidate for extension to 12 core CPU's.

 

[Triskain]

Nope. This Board has an nVidia Chipset, has no PCIe 2.0, no HT 3.1 and it uses Socket F.
The Mobos for Magny-Cours will be completely different and have little in common with that one.

 

[VirtualLarry]

If this thing will only run at 2GHz per core, then it's sure to suck. Some of the most intense stuff I deal with is single threaded. Hashing shared files in emule is single threaded. Installing and uninstalling software is single threaded. Booting into Windows is single threaded. Watching blip.tv is single threaded.

Uhm, that's why this is a SERVER chip, not a desktop chip. The loads are quite different.

 

[Soleron]

This is going to be positioned against Gulftown. (Not Beckton, we can ignore that). Power consumption and price can be assumed competitive from what we know already. So, for highly-threaded server workloads would you rather have 12 AMD cores at >2.3GHz* or 6 Nehalem cores at 3.33GHz? Are Nehalem cores really 40% faster per clock including HT?

*Since the linked one is a non-SE version, and I'm comparing top bins, the highest clocked Magny-Cours has to be at least 2.3GHz.

 

[ebaycj]

Wow neat stuff.
That's high end so there should be four socket boards.
The new Cinebench supports 48 cores. Coincidence?
Hopefully the boards will support "high end" ram amounts of 512+ GB too.

More info here: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/5/14/amds-magny-cours-architecture-revealed.aspx

 

[SunnyD]

Does anyone really care about folding performance? I have folding installed on every computer I own, including laptops, and I don't think I've ever thought about F@H when buying new hardware.

You obviously haven't been to the DC subforum.

There are a lot* of people who build computers exclusively for such things.

*Note: By a lot it means a non-descript amount of individuals, however an amount large enough to dedicate subforums on many popular technology enthusiast websites such as AnandTech, ArsTechnica, HardOCP, Overclock.net, Overclockers.com, etc.

 

[PottedMeat]

Hell if you can get the chips but no motherboard you can make 4 really cool keychains!

:awe::awe::awe::awe:

 

[JFAMD]

Wow neat stuff.
That's high end so there should be four socket boards.
The new Cinebench supports 48 cores. Coincidence?
Hopefully the boards will support "high end" ram amounts of 512+ GB too.

Max memory support is 512GB. For now.

 

[Triskain]

I'm wondering how even that would be possible. A single DDR3 Channel can support 3 DIMM Slots, which for a 4 Socket G34 System means a maximum of 48 Slots. Coupled with 8 GB DIMMs you get a maximum memory amount of 384 GB. I am not aware of 16 GB DIMMs being planned, or even possible.
Is there an error in my reasoning?

 

[Yuriman]

Booting into Windows is single threaded. Watching blip.tv is single threaded.

Last I read this was not the case with Windows 7.

 

[Rubycon]

Max memory support is 512GB. For now.

If that's all AMD can come with (using nFarce chipsets) then this is a joke. I will NEVER, EVER use a board with an NV based chipset. It's a business they should just forfeit altogether. (and stick with GPUs - where's my Fermi dammit!!!?)

 

[Triskain]

If that's all AMD can come with (using nFarce chipsets) then this is a joke. I will NEVER, EVER use a board with an NV based chipset. It's a business they should just forfeit altogether. (and stick with GPUs - where's my Fermi dammit!!!?)

Maybe you missed this:

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/09/21/amd_fiorano_chipsets/

or this:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1534182/amd-launches-server-platform

or this:

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...wn-server-platform-meet-fiorano2c-kroner.aspx

or this:

 

[ShawnD1]

Last I read this was not the case with Windows 7.

Try the following tasks and see how many cores are used
-add or remove windows components
-NTFS compress a large folder
-add or remove indexing on an NTFS drive
-install Windows in a virtual machine and watch Task Manager as you boot it and shut it down

 

[heyheybooboo]

If that's all AMD can come with (using nFarce chipsets) then this is a joke. I will NEVER, EVER use a board with an NV based chipset. It's a business they should just forfeit altogether. (and stick with GPUs - where's my Fermi dammit!!!?)

My understanding is starting with G34 AMD has booted nVidia from the enterprise side (and Magny-Cours).

As typical of nVidia they may try to 'recycle' NF Pro into the new platform but from what I have seen nVidia going 'enterprise' forward is a non-starter (with both AMD and Intel).





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[Rubycon]

Maybe you missed this:

The only thing missing is socket 2 and 3. :biggrin:

Methinks before serious money gets spent on a largely untested platform I will wait and let others do the sea trials.

 

[JFAMD]

All platforms that I am aware of have AMD chipsets. I am not aware of an nVidia-based platform, but if they wanted to do one I would welcome it. I need more places to plug my processors in

 

[JFAMD]

My understanding is starting with G34 AMD has booted nVidia from the enterprise side (and Magny-Cours).


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No, other way around. They could make platforms if they wanted, I would be fine with that.

 

[Accord99]

This is going to be positioned against Gulftown. (Not Beckton, we can ignore that). Power consumption and price can be assumed competitive from what we know already. So, for highly-threaded server workloads would you rather have 12 AMD cores at >2.3GHz* or 6 Nehalem cores at 3.33GHz? Are Nehalem cores really 40% faster per clock including HT?.

With HT, a 4 core Nehalem is usually as fast or faster than the equivalent clocked 6 core Istanbul. Given the clock differences, it seems likely that Gulftown will be faster than Magny Cours in highly-threader server workloads.

 

[aigomorla]

it seems likely that Gulftown will be faster than Magny Cours in highly-threader server workloads.

not to offend AMD users..

But... its not by a small margin... which is why i said its gonna be a sad sad year for AMD...
Gulftown Scales better then Gainestown...
lemme just say that.

And lets not even get into Becktons...

But for ATI i see a golden path straight to the wizard of oz.

ATI is basking in the sunlight while nvidia is hiding in the shadows going CRAP.
Now if they can only fix the 5970 drivers... i might consider picking one up...

 

[tweakboy]

Does it have HT or Intel Turbo. That would be 24 threads. Its a server CPU, meaning it will not perform like the workstation CPU they release.

 

[KingstonU]

Are they going to keep up this rectangular CPU and socket? If not then this will be a 1 generation only socket and design and where is the return on investment in that? And that limits buyers if there are no upgrade paths afterwards.

Also what happened to Idontcare? This is like his bread and butter. Did he go on extended vacation or something?

 

[ShawnD1]

They might as well keep the whacked out shape for a few generations. Even if the chip doesn't need to be that big, having a larger headspreader would make it easier to cool so it can be clocked higher.

 

[Schmide]

20k !!!!!

(sarcasm)Shipping kills it(/sarcasm)

 

[ShawnD1]

(sarcasm)Shipping kills it(/sarcasm)

Price: $1
(plus $20,000 shipping and handling)

 

[grimpr]

G34 will serve for the 16core Bulldozer based Orochi processor in 2011.