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Ambassadorships as Donor Rewards: I am sick of it!

Here we have yet another President who rewards donors/friends by giving them Ambassadorships all over the world.

Case in point: Ex-Banker Expected to Be Named US Ambassador in Berlin

A former top executive at New York-based investment bank Goldman Sachs, Murphy later served as the Democratic Party's national finance chairman. He now stands a great chance of being appointed to the post in the imposing US Embassy on Berlin's Pariser Platz square, the city's historical center and site of the Brandenburg Gate.

After leaving Goldman Sachs in 2006, Murphy became the Democratic Party's leading fundraiser, in charge of attracting millions in private donations to the party. Unlike Germany and most European countries where the parties are funded through government subsidies, the finance chairmen of the Democratic and Republican parties are first and foremost responsible for filling the coffers through private fundraising. They must not only know politics, but also sell it.

During the 1990s he was a donor and also a fundraiser for the Clinton-Gore campaigns. And afterwards, Murphy also ran unsuccessfully in the gubernatorial race in New Jersey, where he currently lives.

In the most recent presidential campaign, Murphy first raised funds for the Democratic Party and, after the nominating convention in Denver, for candidate Obama, too. He organized a number of dinners for and with Obama, sometimes at his own home. The Christmas cards he sent out last year featured a photo of Obama sitting on the steps of his house in New Jersey -- circled by Murphy's four children.

What Murphy lacks, however, is diplomatic experience. That doesn't necessarily have to be interpreted as a defect, though. In Germany, ambassadors are selected from the pool of diplomats in the Foreign Ministry, but in the US, career diplomats are often overlooked in favor of politically engaged private citizens, often people who have been major fundraisers and party donors. An American ambassador first and foremost represents the president and must therefore be loyal to his politics.


And we wonder why America's image abroad is suffering? Aside from the obvious wars, torture, etc., could it ALSO have something to do with the idiots who represent us overseas? In other words, people who don't know a culture and are not engaged in it vs. the opposite? I mean, the last person we want representing us overseas is a trained diplomat, right? The best person for the job is obviously a rich campaign donor!

Change we can believe in!

Oh, I wonder if this guy was any way involved in the current mortgage crisis? Does he pay his taxes? Does he speak German? (You would think foreign language ability would be a minimum requirement for any ambassador.) Does he really know the culture at all?


 
+1 to the righty saracstic reference to change counter.

Does he really know the culture at all?

Hopefully he's aware of the German customer of the Prime Minister receiving a backrub from foreign leaders.

FWIW, it's not that the OP doesn't have a point; but the selectivity of righties in suddenly discovering all kinds of ethics only when a Democrat is in office gets old.

It's also a fair question to ask, is it that big of a deal for Ambassadors?

If the President is satisfied with them as his representative, it's not as if war is going to start over this.

That's only rarely that important - such as when the first Bush administration failed to inform the Ambassador to Iraq that it was no longer 'ok' for Saddam to have Kuwait. Oops.
 
Nonsensitive, prestige diplomatic posts have been political patronage jobs from George Washington's adminstration forward. I view it as no big deal-remember that the embassy has a full staff of professionals to do the real work. The ambassador really just goes to parties, museum openings, etc.
 
Originally posted by: Craig234
+1 to the righty saracstic reference to change counter.

Certainly you've demonstrated that you're above such potshots ripe for the taking 😉 .

 
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Meet the new crook, same as the old crook. Change we can believe in! 😉 (added just for your counter, Craig).

Makes it easier not having any threads without it. Of course, this is hardly the real 'crook' issue - such as Bush appointing hundreds of industry people to regulatory positions.
 
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Meet the new crook, same as the old crook. Change we can believe in! 😉 (added just for your counter, Craig).

Makes it easier not having any threads without it. Of course, this is hardly the real 'crook' issue - such as Bush appointing hundreds of industry people to regulatory positions.

Bush did lots of these slimy things, and deserves to be chastised for it. Dear Leader, on the other hand, pretends to be "different" and above all this politics stuff. It's pretty clear he is not. Just more slime, like all the slime before.
 
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Meet the new crook, same as the old crook. Change we can believe in! 😉 (added just for your counter, Craig).

Makes it easier not having any threads without it. Of course, this is hardly the real 'crook' issue - such as Bush appointing hundreds of industry people to regulatory positions.

Bush did lots of these slimy things, and deserves to be chastised for it. Dear Leader, on the other hand, pretends to be "different" and above all this politics stuff. It's pretty clear he is not. Just more slime, like all the slime before.

And is not simply confined to diplomatic positions -- look who's heading the CIA, for God's sake. If Gates hadn't agreed to stay on for Defense, we'd be looking at the head of ACORN appointed to run DoD.*

😉

(*Yes, I'm kidding. Relax!)
 
Originally posted by: Thump553
Nonsensitive, prestige diplomatic posts have been political patronage jobs from George Washington's adminstration forward. I view it as no big deal-remember that the embassy has a full staff of professionals to do the real work. The ambassador really just goes to parties, museum openings, etc.

Ambassadors are a little more important than that... and it does piss off many a career state department employee to be overlooked based on the fact that they did not give a ton of money to get the president elected.
 
Yeah I remember being pretty steamed when I heard Bush appointed an Ambassador to France who was essentially another Brownie, and who didn't speak a lick of French. As I recall, every GOP supporting poster here dismissed it as no big deal and certainly not news worthy.

Oh how the times change... 😉 Is this disappointing? Yes. Does it invalidate all the other meaningful changes the Obama admin has made so far? Not really.
 
Originally posted by: kage69
Yeah I remember being pretty steamed when I heard Bush appointed an Ambassador to France who was essentially another Brownie, and who didn't speak a lick of French. As I recall, every GOP supporting poster here dismissed it as no big deal and certainly not news worthy.

Oh how the times change... 😉 Is this disappointing? Yes. Does it invalidate all the other meaningful changes the Obama admin has made so far? Not really.

I disagree with the "policy" as it stands, no matter the President, the political party, or the ideology.

It just needs to stop and be truly changed!
 
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Meet the new crook, same as the old crook. Change we can believe in! 😉 (added just for your counter, Craig).

Makes it easier not having any threads without it. Of course, this is hardly the real 'crook' issue - such as Bush appointing hundreds of industry people to regulatory positions.

Bush did lots of these slimy things, and deserves to be chastised for it. Dear Leader, on the other hand, pretends to be "different" and above all this politics stuff. It's pretty clear he is not. Just more slime, like all the slime before.

Pretty much this. Bush is out of office, I think almost everyone here has accepted he sucked, so how about we hold Obama to a higher standard than the one set by his immediate predecessor?
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: kage69
Yeah I remember being pretty steamed when I heard Bush appointed an Ambassador to France who was essentially another Brownie, and who didn't speak a lick of French. As I recall, every GOP supporting poster here dismissed it as no big deal and certainly not news worthy.

Oh how the times change... 😉 Is this disappointing? Yes. Does it invalidate all the other meaningful changes the Obama admin has made so far? Not really.

I disagree with the "policy" as it stands, no matter the President, the political party, or the ideology.

It just needs to stop and be truly changed!

Oh so can you link to the threads when you posted about Bush doing this and you disagreeing?
 
I think it is hilarious that the right seems to think that Obama has magical powers and has not already fixed everything wrong with the government already. He has taken office with more on his plate than anybody since Truman, yet he is ridiculed for not having reformed our government to an unheard of level of perfection in a few months. It appears that the right was thinking of him as some kind of savior.
 
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
I think it is hilarious that the right seems to think that Obama has magical powers and has not already fixed everything wrong with the government already. He has taken office with more on his plate than anybody since Truman, yet he is ridiculed for not having reformed our government to an unheard of level of perfection in a few months. It appears that the right was thinking of him as some kind of savior.

What is even more pathetic is that BHO could write the following sentences on Presidential letterhead and change this issue in no time:

Dear State Department (c/o Hillary Clinton),

I hereby request a change in the status quo.

Please do not consider any wealthy campaign donors, nor close friends of mine, nor close friends of the Democratic party for the various Ambassadorships you are trying to fill.

Instead, I want you to forge a new direction for these positions. Please fill them with the most competent diplomats that you can find who speak the languages of their proposed host countries and are willing to engage themselves in their respective local cultures to build bridges of peace, understanding, and good will.

It will be their task to demonstrate to the world that the United States of American can once again be that shining city on the hill.

Thank you.

Signed,

POTUS
 
Originally posted by: kage69
Yeah I remember being pretty steamed when I heard Bush appointed an Ambassador to France who was essentially another Brownie, and who didn't speak a lick of French. As I recall, every GOP supporting poster here dismissed it as no big deal and certainly not news worthy.

A link would be of use to verify if indeed EVERY GOP supporter here actually said that.
 
Originally posted by: Mursilis

A link would be of use to verify if indeed EVERY GOP supporter here actually said that.

you all had your faces so far up the neocons bushie fascist ass what one link is needed? look at any posts from the right after 2002
 
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Mursilis

A link would be of use to verify if indeed EVERY GOP supporter here actually said that.

you all had your faces so far up the neocons bushie fascist ass what one link is needed? look at any posts from the right after 2002

So basically, you have nothing. I don't remember ever being all that fond of Bush, but don't let that fact get in the way of your spewing.
 
somebody voted for him. You all back pedal now but republicans show horrible judgement as a collective group.
 
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