Amazon now accusing me of being a robot

BarkingGhostar

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Ever since my last fiasco with a USPS Prime misdelivery I had had to deal with Amazon accusing me of potentially being a robot and proving that I am not.

I've used the same PC/OS for the past three years, same web browser (FF), but last February I changed ISPs and started using a VPC service. The recent changes were seemingly accepted just fine, but after last week's misdelivery and the storm that resulted through its conclusion on Monday now has left me with having to prove myself as being human.

Anyone else experiencing this? I have to either type in alphanumeric sequence after my normal password, or type in numbers from an audio bit. BTW, I do not use two-factor authentication and haven't had anyone try to comp my account that I know of. Wondering if it is the VPN service.

I suggest the VPN being the instigator because either on last Friday this past Monday their ATL hub was down and I was using Ashville hub instead. I guess Amazon tracks this change. What is strange is that last December I bought an Xbox One S via my mobile which wasn't even on file nor on my household Internet. That's OK, but using VPN in Atlanta isn't.
 

BarkingGhostar

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I guess they know something I don't. Am I a replicant? Maybe they don't like replicants and make them go through this BS.

Tomorrow I am expecting a new order (4 BD movies). Let's see how they do on this shipment.
 

sdifox

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I guess they know something I don't. Am I a replicant? Maybe they don't like replicants and make them go through this BS.

Tomorrow I am expecting a new order (4 BD movies). Let's see how they do on this shipment.


And I am Canadian using amazon.com account. Mind you I have been with them for forever.
 

GagHalfrunt

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I guess they know something I don't. Am I a replicant? Maybe they don't like replicants and make them go through this BS.

The replicant is always the last to know. If they think you are and you think you're not, my money is on them being right.
 
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Does not compute. But seriously, I have to turn off my VPN to pay my bills to Amazon (and others) lest I get all the requests for proving my identity. As far as orders go, I never have a problem. Just put in my email addy and password and Amazon gladly takes my money!
 

BarkingGhostar

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Using the USPS texting system to give me updates. At 6:46AM this morning the package was validating as being in the local annex ~1.2 miles from me. They will not release it if I go up there.
 

SKORPI0

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Troll Robot beats Google's “I'm Not A Robot” Test, becomes Human
However, this time a robot managed to pass the Google’s Captcha test and make himself count as a human. Well, you might be knowing aboutGoogle’s reCAPTCHA which is used to distinguish between humans and robots. You might think about Artificialintelligence, but let me tell you, that a human actually controls the robot and it has no link with AI (Artificial Intelligence). However, the robot managed to pass to crack Google’s reCAPTCHA test in a breeze.
 
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ponyo

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It's your VPN. Either disable it or verify when you visit Amazon.
 

BarkingGhostar

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My banks don't seem to mind in that they garnered something from the computers to identify them as unique and thus trustworthy when I use VPN.

Why the hell should Amazon want me to promote what I'm doing on the Interwebs to my ISP? Sounds asinine considering the VPN exit hub is in the same city I'm in. But this is also a problem with Delta, too. For some odd reason they've blacklisted some IP blocks that VPN.ac uses for the Atlanta hub and even though I and Delta are in the same city they don't trust me to even see their webpage. BTW, it took six long weeks for Delta to respond and say essentially 'too bad' and so I closed my cobranded Delta/Amex Gold account.
 

Elixer

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Problem is, it isn't just you using a VPN, so, if lots of people are coming from the same IP, then, that raises red flags.
 
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Craigslist most of the time doesn't work when I use a VPN. I can't order pizza through papajohns.com through the vpn either. Some things just fail, so I turn it off and do my thing and turn it back on.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Problem is, it isn't just you using a VPN, so, if lots of people are coming from the same IP, then, that raises red flags.
Which is why I mentioned how my banks must be doing something else to distinguish me from someone else while using a VPN.
 

Elixer

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Which is why I mentioned how my banks must be doing something else to distinguish me from someone else while using a VPN.
Maybe... or they just have crappy security, If they only use username/PW for logins.

Besides, the odds of that VPN's IP is much, much higher hitting Amazon than it is your bank(s).
 

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Maybe... or they just have crappy security, If they only use username/PW for logins.

Besides, the odds of that VPN's IP is much, much higher hitting Amazon than it is your bank(s).
^^
In any case OP, maybe you are a robot and don't remember. ;)
 

Ken g6

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Are these VPNs full network redirectors or just proxies? For when you just want to use a proxy sometimes, I like FoxyProxy, for Firefox and Chrome. Wouldn't work with a full VPN though.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Maybe... or they just have crappy security, If they only use username/PW for logins.

Besides, the odds of that VPN's IP is much, much higher hitting Amazon than it is your bank(s).
I realized they were doing something a little more than checking IP address, browser type/ID, etc., when they realized I was on another PC in the same home. For instance, two different iMac's drew their attention as did two identical Win7Pro machines that I built with the only different being i5 vs i7 and the serial number used for the OS. I didn't have a problem with them doing this and was actually thankful. I just do not see why I have to repeatedly prove myself human every time I try to login. Heck, it has happened several times just bringing up the website, which is why I spawned the post.

You would think they have a Fed-ish agenda in finding any form of VPN use illegal. And it is the same VPN and computer that I have been corresponding to them with on last week's issues of misdeliveries. In fact, as I stated earlier the problem only came up after that reported misdelivery issue.
 

Elixer

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I realized they were doing something a little more than checking IP address, browser type/ID, etc., when they realized I was on another PC in the same home. For instance, two different iMac's drew their attention as did two identical Win7Pro machines that I built with the only different being i5 vs i7 and the serial number used for the OS. I didn't have a problem with them doing this and was actually thankful. I just do not see why I have to repeatedly prove myself human every time I try to login. Heck, it has happened several times just bringing up the website, which is why I spawned the post.
They can't really tell what serial number or anything of that nature without having an actual program client side telling them what you have.
What usually happens is, they store some browser info, and put a cookie on your machine that you last banked from successfully. It highly depends on their security behavior though.
Most banks now have 2 factor authorization (and if they don't, drop that bank!), and are more like steam/origin/uplay, they send a code to your e-mail address, and you enter that.
Since there are a ton of scammers out there, I rather have to prove myself each time than allowing scammers access.

You would think they have a Fed-ish agenda in finding any form of VPN use illegal. And it is the same VPN and computer that I have been corresponding to them with on last week's issues of misdeliveries. In fact, as I stated earlier the problem only came up after that reported misdelivery issue.
That could be coincidence. As I mentioned before, if site X is getting the same IP with different logins, it trips alarms, that is usually how scammers/bots work.

Not much you can do about that really, except stop using VPNs for sites you frequent.
 

BarkingGhostar

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I doubt it is a cookie as I configure FF to clear everything upon browser closure. And I'm not going to stop using VPN. I'll contact Amazon over this, but I predict I will get the same response that Delta gave, which is they just don't care. They would rather treat a proven customer as bad, first, and good, last. It is a protect themselves first and their frequent customers last.