Amazon fears it will run out of workers in the US due to very high churn

[pcgeek11]

This country treats unskilled labor like trash. They are supposed to work like robots, get paid less than 30K a year, go back to their below standard lives, then wake up and do it again, for years and years. Labor is just not respected in many industries.

Bezos created Amazon. One of the most impressive companies in the history of the world. But at the end of the day, it will fail without its worker drones, yet they are dismissed as trash by so many in this country. Pretty much the GQP party, the party of the average Joe working man.

Is Bezos a Republican?

/s

 

[MrSquished]

Is Bezos a Republican?

If you look at Bezos, he has managed to remain pretty anonymous as far as his politics go, but he donates to both sides pretty equally, though on the Senate side, more to Republicans. Bezos is ultimately a businessman playing both sides. He is no progressive that is for sure.

Bezos pays his workers $15 an hour, which is MORE than what if you ask the GQP they think that kind of work deserves and certainly are against making that any sort of minimum wage for anybody.

Tell me which party fights for higher wages, more accessible healthcare, better worker rights, more family leave, worker's rights, etc... vs the other? Then tell me which party sells itself as the party for the average Joe vs the party of elitists?

Good luck answering that one.

 

[shortylickens]

Is Bezos a Republican?

/s

when you are that rich you dont vote at the polls. You vote in their office.
with money.
guys like him are far beyond the normal stuff. they want something done they buy a congressman or two. thats why nothing gets any better when we swap from a republican to a democrat. its all just horse shit.

 

[pcgeek11]

Bezos pays his workers $15 an hour, which is MORE than what if you ask the GQP they think that kind of work deserves and certainly are against making that any sort of minimum wage for anybody.

Tell me which party fights for higher wages, more accessible healthcare, better worker rights, more family leave, worker's rights, etc... vs the other? Then tell me which party sells itself as the party for the average Joe vs the party of elitists?

Good luck answering that one.

I see nothing wrong with 15 dollars an hour dependent of the location and cost of living in the area, if you find people that are willing to work for that. Obviously due to their turnover rate many are not willing. It will also work itself out over time.

Yes, you are correct the Democrats and Progressives are all for the Nanny State where everything is done for you regardless.

I do think we need healthcare reform ( Price controls and tort reform ) and higher wages across the board within reason such as 15 dollars an hour minimum wage for full time employees.

 

[vi edit]

The idea of full time is a dated construct and needs to die. It's just a way for employers to manipulate work forces to their advantage.

 

[shortylickens]

The idea of full time is a dated construct and needs to die. It's just a way for employers to manipulate work forces to their advantage.

Yeah the whole point of modern technology is to make things easier. instead major corporations are using it as an excuse to lay off and underpay all their people.
With the way things are in the 20th century we should the bulk of the work force putting in no more than 30 hours a week, and they should be able to give those people a livable salary.
Instead you have millions of people struggling to pay the rent on a 60 hour week and millions more cannot find work.
But thank god the CEO of walmart can buy 20 yachts a year.

 

[vi edit]

Beyond that you have employers just not offering"full time" hours. Oh you worked 35 hours? Well you were *this* close. Get fucked.

Edit - saying mostly same thing as Shorty.

 

[feralkid]

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[s0me0nesmind1]

Beatings will continue until morale improves.


But no seriously, enjoy even more automation in Amazon plants.

 

[MrSquished]

Yeah the whole point of modern technology is to make things easier. instead major corporations are using it as an excuse to lay off and underpay all their people.
With the way things are in the 20th century we should the bulk of the work force putting in no more than 30 hours a week, and they should be able to give those people a livable salary.
Instead you have millions of people struggling to pay the rent on a 60 hour week and millions more cannot find work.
But thank god the CEO of walmart can buy 20 yachts a year.

Pretty much this.

The response from Trumpies will be, well, it's unskilled labor that a lot of people can do so that is what it is. Basically, they support a permanent class of working poor.

 

[shortylickens]

Pretty much this.

The response from Trumpies will be, well, it's unskilled labor that a lot of people can do so that is what it is. Basically, they support a permanent class of working poor.

yes they do.
and the best part is Fox News has convinced them they are being supported and helped by the GOP.

 

[Vic]

Beatings will continue until morale improves.


But no seriously, enjoy even more automation in Amazon plants.

But no seriously, then why hasn't your overpaid bean-counting job been automated already?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

But no seriously, then why hasn't your overpaid bean-counting job been automated already?

Because it's complex, silly. I actually have skills in the process of implementing, setting up, configuring, and selling the software that is used for replacing the bean counters you speak of. The difference is, I'm a highly skilled bean counter that can explain the legalities and have the technical skills for IT implementations of it.

 

[sportage]

YOU get a space ship, and YOU get a space ship, and YOU get a space ship. Oprah gave everyone a car, so Bezos can at the least hand out space ships.

It's not so much the incredible massive huge wealth disparity between the CEO vs the slave labor that ticks me off, it is what these incredibly super wealthy people spend their money on.... Or should we say "blow" their money on. They buy mansions where a really big house would suffice, and collecting expensive automobiles, and spending millions on a single piece of art, and now on spaceships.

You know..... when it gets THIS BAD, maybe socialism isn't that bad of an idea after all? But I know exactly what people like Bezos are waiting for, they are waiting for robotic technology to completely take over to the point where the robots can be the slave labor and the human worker can go F themselves.

With the money Amazon alone makes, all of their employees SHOULD HAVE 100% paid healthcare (with no co-pays), and a life long pension plan upon retirement, and a decent generous wage where only the employee need work and the spouse can (if desired) stay at home raising the kids. You know.... just like it was during the 1950's. Every home built during the 50's was built with a one-car garage because only one car was needed. The car dad drove to work, while mom stayed home. And still, that family could afford to send the kids to college and take a yearly vacation. That was before the greed took over, before the unions were killed off, and the massive wealth disparity evolved, and.... when the republicans began screwing the middle class.

 

[pcgeek11]

a decent generous wage where only the employee need work and the spouse can (if desired) stay at home raising the kids. You know.... just like it was during the 1950's. Every home built during the 50's was built with a one-car garage because only one car was needed. The car dad drove to work, while mom stayed home. And still, that family could afford to send the kids to college and take a yearly vacation. That was before the greed took over, before the unions were killed off, and the massive wealth disparity evolved, and.... when the republicans began screwing the middle class.

My wife never had to work outside of the home, my son went to college, we had two vehicles and we are still doing just fine that way now. She stays home and takes care of that and I work and provide. So it's not as if it is impossible, it can be done with planning and saving. We did have some lean times, but worked our way through it.

 

[NWRMidnight]

YOU get a space ship, and YOU get a space ship, and YOU get a space ship. Oprah gave everyone a car, so Bezos can at the least hand out space ships.

It's not so much the incredible massive huge wealth disparity between the CEO vs the slave labor that ticks me off, it is what these incredibly super wealthy people spend their money on.... Or should we say "blow" their money on. They buy mansions where a really big house would suffice, and collecting expensive automobiles, and spending millions on a single piece of art, and now on spaceships.

You know..... when it gets THIS BAD, maybe socialism isn't that bad of an idea after all? But I know exactly what people like Bezos are waiting for, they are waiting for robotic technology to completely take over to the point where the robots can be the slave labor and the human worker can go F themselves.

With the money Amazon alone makes, all of their employees SHOULD HAVE 100% paid healthcare (with no co-pays), and a life long pension plan upon retirement, and a decent generous wage where only the employee need work and the spouse can (if desired) stay at home raising the kids. You know.... just like it was during the 1950's. Every home built during the 50's was built with a one-car garage because only one car was needed. The car dad drove to work, while mom stayed home. And still, that family could afford to send the kids to college and take a yearly vacation. That was before the greed took over, before the unions were killed off, and the massive wealth disparity evolved, and.... when the republicans began screwing the middle class.

To have it like the 1950's, the wealth gap and wealth disparity has to disappear. The reason that wasn't a problem back then and one income families could live a comfortable life is because of the tax code. Back then the tax codes gave them the insentive to pay wages that a family could live on with only 1 person working. As they didn't have all the loop holes we have today's and the top tax rate for the rich was 91%..

 

[NWRMidnight]

My wife never had to work outside of the home, my son went to college, we had two vehicles and we are still doing just fine that way now. She stays home and takes care of that and I work and provide. So it's not as if it is impossible, it can be done with planning and saving. We did have some lean times, but worked our way through it.

you are the exception which is far and few now days because majority of wages paid today to the majority of people won't substain it. Where in the 50's, it was opposite, where it was nearly unheard of having the wife work to survive.

 

[pmv]

you are the exception which is far and few now days because majority of wages paid today to the majority of people won't substain it. Where in the 50's, it was opposite, where it was nearly unheard of having the wife work to survive.

Is it at all possible it's simply supply-and-demand?

When it was normal for wives to stay-at-home (thanks to cultural norms and, I guess, that the machinery for saving domestic labour - like microwaves and washing-machines - hadn't been invented yet) the available workforce outside the home would have been half what it now is. Thus its value would have been twice what it now is. That's relative to the fixed-costs of housing at least. For other costs one could presume the price of the goods would have gone down also, as the cost of the labour to produce them did, so the changes would have cancelled out. But not for land and hence housing. Women joining the paid labour force would halve the relative value of labour compared to land, no?

This of course assumes the country is a closed economy, and ignores the effect of globaiisation, so maybe it doesn't really work like that.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

YOU get a space ship, and YOU get a space ship, and YOU get a space ship. Oprah gave everyone a car, so Bezos can at the least hand out space ships.

What if you spent 28 million bux for a space ride with Jeff and his brother and the whole thing blew up in your face and y'all became space junk?

 

[Fenixgoon]

My wife never had to work outside of the home, my son went to college, we had two vehicles and we are still doing just fine that way now. She stays home and takes care of that and I work and provide. So it's not as if it is impossible, it can be done with planning and saving. We did have some lean times, but worked our way through it.

You are 1 data point in a sea of millions. Consider the possibility that you are not representative of even a fraction of the entire data set.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I see nothing wrong with 15 dollars an hour dependent of the location and cost of living in the area, if you find people that are willing to work for that. Obviously due to their turnover rate many are not willing. It will also work itself out over time.

Yes, you are correct the Democrats and Progressives are all for the Nanny State where everything is done for you regardless.

I do think we need healthcare reform ( Price controls and tort reform ) and higher wages across the board within reason such as 15 dollars an hour minimum wage for full time employees.

You're wrong if you think Dem / progressives are all for a nanny state.

Also, corporate America plays this game where they don't employ people full time intentionally. They do this so they don't have to offer benefits, and they know that the social safety net will make up the difference. It's corporate welfare to a T.

The answer is to remove benefit reliance on the employer. Healthcare for all, retirement packages for all, and education for all. Corporate America has had a 50 year run of beating the workers like pinatas and keeping us squabbling over trivial social issues. Time for it to end.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You are 1 data point in a sea of millions. Consider the possibility that you are not representative of even a fraction of the entire data set.

It's more rare than ever, as designed by the "job creators"

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

My wife never had to work outside of the home, my son

She stays home and takes care of that and I work and provide.

Barefoot & pregnant right? Ya' know, where Righteys think all wimminfolk belong.

 

[pcgeek11]

You are 1 data point in a sea of millions. Consider the possibility that you are not representative of even a fraction of the entire data set.

Never claimed otherwise...

 

[pcgeek11]

You're wrong if you think Dem / progressives are all for a nanny state.

Also, corporate America plays this game where they don't employ people full time intentionally. They do this so they don't have to offer benefits, and they know that the social safety net will make up the difference. It's corporate welfare to a T.

The answer is to remove benefit reliance on the employer. Healthcare for all, retirement packages for all, and education for all. Corporate America has had a 50 year run of beating the workers like pinatas and keeping us squabbling over trivial social issues. Time for it to end.

Well no more so than the Republicans are ALL for ... X Y Z as portrayed so often here.

I agree.

Great then we just need to pay for it.