Amazon - CTX 19" PR960F FD Trinitron Flatscreen Monitor for $382.95 Shipped!(listed:649)QUALITY STUFF!!HOT!

ETLA

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Really nice monitor for cheap. It's FLAT, based on the Sony FD Trinitron tube, with .24 AG Stripe pitch.SPECS!!!!! We're talking true pitch here, not the ".22 horizontal dot pitch" quoted by some companies which really translates to a .27 diagonal pitch (ahem, Hitachi).Read up on the specs. 24 AG stripe pitch, FLAT tube, both BNC and VGA connections, 1800x1440 max res, and a USB hub. CTX-INTERNATIONAL Buy it at Amazon, which has FREE Shipping at this time. Use code for $50 off a $100+ purchase in their electronics department,taking the price down to $382.95.

Price on PriceWatch: it's $437+ shipping!!!!!!

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Well..I am gonna buy this monitor once my MCI comes in and add the $50 and free shipping is just crazy...This is a really good monitor I am going to use it for designing purpose as my 2nd 19" and set it up using MATRXO G400max.
 

Uthiroid

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I just ordered this for a friend, but it supposedly ships in 1-2 weeks... we'll see how long that takes.

 

IITravel

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I want this monitor and this is a good price, but still is a lot for a 19"er, hope to see the price drop some soon, wish I had another $150 Amazon GC...
 

ETLA

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this babie use the sony tube. it's the FD trinitron tube in the E400 and G400
 

cbass98

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I have to agree that this is a bit too much for a 19" monitor. Those Samsung 19" monitors for ~$280 and the Compaq ones for $150 were definitely hotter. May not be as great as this CTX, but you definitely get more bang for your buck with them. Just my $0.02.

-Cbass98
 

rpr

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I had 2 of these monitors and returned them both. Horrible misconvergence problems. One of them had a loose part in the bottom of the case. I would recommend the KDS AV-195TF (you can probably find it for $400). Better quality and better warranty.
 

ETLA

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rprare you serious? These are one of the best quality monitors and cbass98NO, bang for the bucks for normal monitors on SamSung and Compaq, but they suck. COMPAQ monitors just suck...we have them at work about 10 of them...used for a month returned them all and changed to Iiyama/Sony/some LCD.
 

whooosh

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I have one of these, and regretted. Should have gotten a Viewsonic PF790 instead.
It have some problems at resolutions higher then 1280*, blurred text no matter how much you adjust. Its abit better when using a Matrox G400.
 

rpr

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ETLA: I'm very serious. Where have you heard that CTX makes the best quality monitors??? I agree the specs are impressive, but you won't care how impressive the numbers are after you get occular migraines while trying to adjust the convergence settings in a hopeless attempt to eliminate the blurriness around the edges. You may hear that all trinitrons have the same problems. Well, they do, but the CTX PR960F is way more pronounced than any of the other trinitrons I've seen. All I can say is if you're seriously considering buying one of these, buy from someone with a great return policy like Onvia. Better yet, find one at a local B&M and see it for yourself before you buy it. Good luck.
 

ETLA

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damn it...thanx..now what do I buy? the KDS???? but the KDS doesn't sound as impressive as the CTX.....did u bought 2 of the CTX (ones I wanted) NEW?
 

jaggrey

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I have the 17" version of the CTX, and mine is great!! One thing that I have noticed about the CTX monitors is the refresh rates....they're insane! They look good to me though...have the Trinitron tube on the inside. The only problem that I have with mine is in the upper right corner, the colors separate a bit. Not something you'd notice unless you were looking for it, and you only notice when you do a color test that shows each individual color...I see that the red is a bit higher up than the blue and the green.

I'm not sure if that made any sense but on other monitors I haven't noticed it.

I love this thing!! I would get what you're talking about if I were you!!!

I like the KDS's too...I almost bought one but they weren't available when I ordered my CTX, and I like the higher refresh rates & the integrated USB hub.

I wish it were black to complete my color scheme though! :D
 

darkshadow1

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The KDS Trinitron is absolutely one of the best monitors I've seen, (both 17" and 19") hands down. You have to see it before you compare specs...
 

jaggrey

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I find that the CTX's give a higher refresh rate than the KDS's (I have the CTX 17").

That doesn't mean that the KDS couldn't go higher...I haven't had one so I don't know.
 

ji64

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I have been going crazy looking for a good quality moniter. Just when i think i find one, i read somewhere that it suffers from some horrible defect. This point is that there are lemons out there, you just have to get lucky. This seems to be true for ALL moniters, just goto epinions and you will see this. I have read a number of reviews on this moniter, it has even been picked as number one in some of them, and reported to have excellent image quality. I ordered this moniter yesterday and hopefully it will live up to the better reviews.
 

divinemartyr

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Let me just sort of shed a little light on this subject before someone goes and wastes their money.

First let's analyze what rpr said. He bought *2* of these monitors and had convergence problems on both. I have also heard this of CTX monitors. For those of you who do not know what convergence is: When a picture is displayed it uses RED, GREEN, and BLUE to make each color on the screen in some combination. These colors all have to be projected together properly in order to avoid blurry pictures and bleeding colors. jaggrey said he had problems with his colors bleeding, but didn't even realize that this is a convergence issue! So since he doesn't even know what convergence is, but described the problem, and rpr has already told you it has convergence problems, is it a coincidence? Probably not. So that's your first point.

Secondly, I saw that ji64 mentioned epinions.com as a source of where he had gotten a review of this product. I've been to epinions, in fact i've written a couple reviews of my own, and while some products are easy to evaluate, AUDIO AND VIDEO are NOT. You really have to have a trained ear and eye for something like this. I don't think epinions is a good place to look for reviews on monitors or speakers/audio products. Things like mice, alarm clock, computer peripherals, things like that, people can review them on how well they work, but things like monitors, should be left to professionals. Do you really think 15 year old Billy whose daddy just bought him a brand new HP 800mhz PIII can accurately evaluate a trinitron monitor? Case in point, I won't say any more on that.

Third, you really should go to a B&M store to LOOK at a monitor before you buy it. Regardless, you won't find any HOT DEALS there on one (more than likely) but you can make a good evaluation on which monitor looks best to YOU and ultimately that's most important.

I hope this helps at least someone in making a good decision, and one you won't regret.

divinemartyr
 

ETLA

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well..I talked with Apex from Gotapex he does reviews and he has the 19" KDS himself but he still recommended me to buy the CTX so I am gonna try that.......
 

ji64

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I think divinemartyr missed my point. The point i was trying to make is that there are lemons out there. There was something obviously wrong with the moniter that had a part rattling on the bottom, so no one should be surprised if it had image problems. Moreover, even if you go to a store and see a moniter that you like, there is just as much a chance that you will end up with a lemon, and the moniter may not look as good as the one in the store. Just take a look at these reviews from various computer magazine publication, on which i think you will agree are a little more credible then epinions. You will find that they don't show the major convergence problem that some people are pointing out, and again affirm that the monitor is quite capable of displaying an accurate image, it just depends if its a lemon or not from the factory.

http://www.itreviews.co.uk/hardware/h147.htm
http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rlid=15713
http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/pipreviews/0,8827,194029,00.html
 

divinemartyr

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No ji64 I didn't miss your point, you and I just have DIFFERENT points on this particular topic. By the way, it's monitor not moniter.

Anyway, my point was that if monitors are known to have defects, don't buy them! There are many trinitron monitors which are not really known for having defects (i.e. Sony, KDS). Both the Sony and KDS I know for a fact are built to very exacting standards, as KDS modeled themselves after Sony's manufacturing process. If you have 2 deifferent people, on the same message thread, on the same hot deals forum, saying that there is the SAME problem on the SAME monitor then I'd say that manufacturer has more problems than simply "lemons". Moreover, as you like to say, their manufacturing process is probably less costly, which is why they can bring this to you at a lower cost. It all comes down to one thing, you get what you pay for.

divinemartyr
 

ji64

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Divine Martyr, i think i need to make my point clearer. ALL monitors can have defects. I have come across numerous instances where monitors have been top rated, only to come across a conflicting review that says the monitor is sh*t. And, yes, this is true just as much for the sony brand, regardless of its price, which you claim are made to "exacting" standards. and in reality, you don't always get what you pay for.

http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-1044-404-1433240.html?st.co.1044-402.pdtl.1044-404-1433240

I would like to now point you to CNET's website where you will find numerous people claiming the SONY's trinitron line of monitor's is just as fallible to defects as any other brand. There you will find that practically 1 out of 4 people are dissapointed in the brand because of some defect and what not. One person even goes so far to say that they are "extremely dissapointed" in sony's quality assurance. So much for these "exacting standards" that SONY has in place, as the issues brought up in that forum are just as serious as the CTX ones.

So again i emphasize my point that buying a monitor can be, in part, simply luck of the draw, and paying a premium on products doesn't necessarily corellate with quality.