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Texashiker

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Why would I do that with a physical book? That's nonsense. Efficiency is superior to sentimentality.

So our throw away society has gotten to the point where we do not worry about passing things down to our kids, grand kids, great grand kids?

The time when we could pull a book off the shelf, open it up and show our kids what our grandparents read has passed us by?

That is nonsense.

Its important to share our heritage with our children.

Like when my daughter was asking about Texas History. I pulled "The Raven: A Biography of Sam Houston" off the shelf, handed it to her and said "this is your great grandfathers book - he read it, your grandfather read it, I read it (her dad), and now its your turn to read it."


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Awhile back my dad and I were looking at my grandfathers bible. Inside the bible was a small piece of paper where he made notes on how much, and how often he fed his cows. I think the paper was dated somewhere around 1970,,, 1971,,,.

Do that with your kindle.
 
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LikeLinus

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So our throw away society has gotten to the point where we do not worry about passing things down to our kids, grand kids, great grand kids?

The time when we could pull a book off the shelf, open it up and show our kids what our grandparents read has passed us by?

That is nonsense.

Its important to share our heritage with our children.

Its like when my daughter was asking about Texas History. I pulled "The Raven: A Biography of Sam Houston" off the shelf, handed it to her and said "this is your great grandfathers book - he read it, your grandfather read it, I read it (her dad), and now its your turn to read it."

Do that with your stupid kindle.

Why can't you do both? You seem to be very simple minded. Guess what, I don't want to have a physical copy of every book I've ever read. Sometimes it's nice to be able to download something and read it, but not have to deal with having the book itself.

My wife isn't going to pass down Chelsea Handler's new book to our sons.

Then there are other times where it's nice to own a good hard back book that is worth owning and passing down.
 
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Dont try convincing these city slickers Texashiker. They are addicted to electric things and just dont want to have a fine collection of tomes.

I do. :colbert:
 

Texashiker

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Then there are other times where it's nice to own a good hard back book that is worth owning and passing down.

If you do not want your grandkids to have it, then do not buy it in the first place.

99.9% of my families book collection is history, everything from early European to American history.

My grandfather - American history, Civil War, World War II, Texas history

My dad - American History, Native American History, early explorers, Civil War

Myself - Early European history, Roman history, history on the middle ages and dark ages of Europe,,,,. This Christmas I received Walden by Henry David Thoreau - which is what I'am currently reading.


Take you're entire library of books on a plane, car, boat or train anytime you want. Do that with your books................

That is more bragging then practical application. So what if your car can go 200 miles per hour, there is no practical application for doing so.

Take an entire library on a plane? Sorry, but I only read 1 book at a time.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
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Dont try convincing these city slickers Texashiker. They are addicted to electric things and just dont want to have a fine collection of tomes.

I do. :colbert:
It would take a whole pickup to carry my book collection. There's a bunch I like having a hard copy of, but most are just unnecessary bulk, and weight. With an Ebook, if I get a bug up my ass to read something old, I just download it. There's a ton of public domain books I haven't gotten around to reading yet, and an Ebook makes that simple. Free reading material. Some modern books I don't need to keep around. They just aren't that special. An ebook makes those easy to deal with. Few wasted resources for me to be entertained.

I don't have an Ebook yet, but my daughter got a Nook for xmas, As soon as I get the extra money, I'm getting one for myself. They're super devices, and it beats having a sagging floor from a wall full of books.
 

Bateluer

Lifer
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Why can't you do both? You seem to be very simple minded. Guess what, I don't want to have a physical copy of every book I've ever read. Sometimes it's nice to be able to download something and read it, but not have to deal with having the book itself.

My wife isn't going to pass down Chelsea Handler's new book to our sons.

Then there are other times where it's nice to own a good hard back book that is worth owning and passing down.

This. Most of the books I buy today aren't what I would consider 'inheritable.' I have some very nice books, and I keep most of my printed books in 'Like New' condition, but I'm just not going to pass down my Sword of Truth collection. :p Some of my hardcover books that I've had signed by the author, different story. Some of the books with hand drawn illustrations, different story.

I love my nook, and wouldn't part with it. Its easier to travel with, easier to get books, easier to read newspapers&magazines, the content takes ZERO physical space, it kills no trees, trucks don't burn gas transporting millions of tons of printed books around, its easier for an independent author to market and distribute their own books, and its a major sales driver for B&N. Wish they'd standardize some of the pricing of the ebooks though, its kinda ridiculous to see the ebook priced higher than the printed version. Or see the ebook prices fluctuate on a day to day basis. Damn publishers need a good smack across the face to get them into the 21st century.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
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Why can't you do both? You seem to be very simple minded. Guess what, I don't want to have a physical copy of every book I've ever read. .

Ok, how about this,

For the junk books that you never plan on handing down to anyone except Goodwill, then get a book reader / kindle.

For the quality books that you would like to one day hand down to your kids, grand kids, buy a real paper book.
 

Onita

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I have a ton of books and a Kindle. All have different uses.

I've probably ordered 30 or so books from Amazon in the previous 6 months. I've had none of the issues from the OP.
 
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Never had a problem with books I've ordered from Amazon. They've always come in pristine condition.

You either need to: complain to them about the condition of the books and make them correct the problem or buy your books elsewhere.
 

erikistired

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So our throw away society has gotten to the point where we do not worry about passing things down to our kids, grand kids, great grand kids?

The time when we could pull a book off the shelf, open it up and show our kids what our grandparents read has passed us by?

That is nonsense.

Its important to share our heritage with our children.

Like when my daughter was asking about Texas History. I pulled "The Raven: A Biography of Sam Houston" off the shelf, handed it to her and said "this is your great grandfathers book - he read it, your grandfather read it, I read it (her dad), and now its your turn to read it."


~~~~ EDIT ~~~~

Awhile back my dad and I were looking at my grandfathers bible. Inside the bible was a small piece of paper where he made notes on how much, and how often he fed his cows. I think the paper was dated somewhere around 1970,,, 1971,,,.

Do that with your kindle.

books will be gone by the time my grandkids are around. if they want to read what i read, they can have my kindle. i have no desire to collect physical books anymore. i'm nearly ready to get rid of the 200+ i have in storage, because i have no desire to read them again in that format. i've already replaced a good deal of them with digital copies anyway.

edit: wait a second, is this phineas? are you back?
 
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Malak

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Its important to share our heritage with our children.

I can share my heritage, your heritage, and the entire history of the world to your kids from the other side of the world. Can your flimsy, decaying, and vulnerable sentiments do that? Material possessions do not contain your memories, nor the memories of your ancestors.
 

pontifex

Lifer
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oh for fuck's sakes will you guys quit arguing about which is better? there's no need. both have their advantages and disadvantages.
 

hclarkjr

Lifer
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What happened to them. I used to rely on them to get fresh copies of books now it seems every time I order from them these days they send books in mangled or used condition. I've ordered a lot of books recently and nine times out of ten this has been the case.

:mad:
i have been ordering books for 5 years or so from them and have never had 1 problem to date. are you ordering new books or used?
 

erikistired

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I was actually suprised at the high number of books not available on Kindle. Quite a few I was looking forward to aren't there :(

check out author websites. i've found more than a few have their books out in kindle-compatible formats on smaller publisher websites.

every so often i come across something i can't find tho, which is somewhat disappointing.
 

xanis

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I've ordered a bunch of books from Amazon and never had a problem. I'm guessing that you might have ordered from a 3rd-party seller or something by mistake.
 

Texashiker

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For everyone asking these are direct from Amazon and listed as new.

All of the new books I have ordered from amazon have arrived in very good condition.

If anything, it sounds like your getting used books.
 

dwell

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All of the new books I have ordered from amazon have arrived in very good condition.

If anything, it sounds like your getting used books.

Good to hear it's just me. I have two new text books coming Weds. We'll see then.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
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check out author websites. i've found more than a few have their books out in kindle-compatible formats on smaller publisher websites.

every so often i come across something i can't find tho, which is somewhat disappointing.

Thanks for the tip ;)
 

Born2bwire

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Oct 28, 2005
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If you do not want your grandkids to have it, then do not buy it in the first place.

99.9% of my families book collection is history, everything from early European to American history.

My grandfather - American history, Civil War, World War II, Texas history

My dad - American History, Native American History, early explorers, Civil War

Myself - Early European history, Roman history, history on the middle ages and dark ages of Europe,,,,. This Christmas I received Walden by Henry David Thoreau - which is what I'am currently reading.

That is more bragging then practical application. So what if your car can go 200 miles per hour, there is no practical application for doing so.

Take an entire library on a plane? Sorry, but I only read 1 book at a time.

What? That's ridiculous. My grandkids ain't going to give two cents for the 50 Agatha Christie Poirot paperbacks I got stacked on a shelf. I'm not buying books to be some obscure heirloom. I'm buying them to read and pass the time. I can take an e-book reader with me when I'm travelling without having to haul several paperbacks with me. I don't have to worry about transporting hundreds of books cross-country or overseas. You may only read one book at a time but I hate having to carry three or four books with me on vacation since I go through a book in a day or two.

I've got hundreds of books in storage now which I can't get to. I can't wait to get an e-book reader and start being able to take my library where I want to. If I want to have something nice I can still buy a hardback from the bookstore if I want to. However, I don't want a physical book anymore for 99.9999% of my purchases.