AM3 socket specifications, vs 1150 (bolt holes)

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Um, TCASE is not the same as the temperature reported by your CPU :rolleyes:

What is Tcase vs. Tjunction?
These terms are related to processor temperature for desktop and mobile systems based on Intel® Processors. To allow optimal system operation and long-term reliability, the processor must not exceed the maximum case temperature specifications as defined by the applicable thermal profile.

Tcase is the temperature measurement using a thermocouple embedded in the center of the heat spreader. This initial measurement is done at the factory. Post-manufacturing, Tcase is calibrated by the BIOS, through a reading delivered by a diode between and below the cores.

Tjunction is synonymous with core temperatures, and calculated based on the output from the Digital Thermal Sensor (DTS) using the formula Tjunction = (Tjunction Max – DTS output).

http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-033342.htm

You are reading TJunction, not TCase.

EDIT: For comparison, here's a Haswell part which lists its TJunction on Ark- it's 100C: http://ark.intel.com/products/76308/Intel-Core-i5-4300U-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-2_90-GHz
 
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EliteRetard

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*snip*



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Aside from potentially making mistakes like cracking the board when say drilling a hole, I would have thought that static build-up from tool use would also be a problem. That's aside from the probable situation where the most suitable place to drill a hole isn't possible because the board already has circuitry running through that point. I suspect that when a board of that complexity is in production, holes are made before circuitry is embedded, but I could be wrong.

Furthermore, there must be some retail HSFs that are like the AMD ones that the OP is interested in. A quick browse on the Arctic Cooling site shows several. It almost goes without saying that "the bigger the better" (however not strictly/necessarily always true), but I would have thought a decent company producing HSFs would make one that's reasonably compact and is at least a bit better than the stock HSF.

What the heck are you guys talking about?! Have you never seen an AMD board? Why the heck would I drill a hole in my MOBO?

AMD bolts down a strip with a hook on it, their coolers then use a spring clip that latches onto the hook. All I need to do is build a similar strip with boltholes that match Intel instead of AMD while keeping the hook in roughly the same location as the AMD socket so the spring clip can latch on properly.

The hook strip doesn't move or affect the heastink in anyway. Its simply hard mounted to the MOBO. The spring clip is what applies the connection and force, and I'm not touching that at all. I just need to know how the AMD bolt holes compare to the Intel ones so I can fit it to their socket specs.

If you can find a good HS/F (not a small metal block) that will fit in the Intel socket (95x95mm) and no go crazy high (max about 75mm) post a link.
 

EliteRetard

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Well I'm going to sleep now...it's 5:30 in the morning and I've been up almost 24 hours. I dont even remember the last time I ate and I'm starting to feel like I need to refresh my brain. I'll be back after I wake up and eat something.

Thanks for the input until now.
 

EliteRetard

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HAHA! That bit about FM2 being similar to AM2/3 seemed to help. I got a rough idea how the sockets fit and fortunately for me they are similar in size:

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Intel socket in black and AMD in red. The bolt holes are quite far off, but the latch edge of the AMD socket is at 96mm while the edge of the intel socket is at 95mm. This makes things fairly easy. I just need to change the AMD clip bar so the legs stretch out farther and back more while arching up over the components like this:

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And perhaps a better side view instead of top down, the bracket will be made to clear the top of any heatsinks or other components below:

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Some plastic washers on each side and a bolt through the MOBO and I will have a secure mechanism to latch AMD coolers to. I almost wonder if I could commission somebody to cut and bend these out of metal for me, or if it were possible to print a hard resilient plastic like the stock AMD mount.

I have a feeling that metal would be easier and stronger, easy to cut out from a flat sheet (maybe 1/16" ?) and then bend in the tabs. You would just need to sand it smooth and use soft washers for safety.
 

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And since AMD has been using the same socket design since the dawn of time it will make it much easier to find and mount a cooler for all of Intels sockets. You just drill various holes in the bolt tab that match the various Intel bolt patterns. 80mm square for 2011/1366, 75mm for 156/1155/1150, and 72mm for 775.

I know I've got coolers designed for AMD and 775 but not anything newer. This would allow them to mount to new Intel sockets with the AMD retention system. Or just provide you with a better more secure mounting option than push pins. And since the Intel socket is square you could orient you cooler whichever direction you wish by simply moving the adapter bracket around.

Edit: This is about what the various Intel socket bolt patterns look like as far as I know (still fit in the current limits of the modern 1150 socket):

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