AM2 NOT 333Mhz HTT?

[BradAtWork]

I don't have an A64 so i'm not too sure how it works, but by the look of the Toms Hardware article on the AM2, it looks like it won't have 333Mhz HTT.

All the processors listed are divisible by 2. ie 2.0 , 2.2 , 2.4 etc.

Does that mean the HTT has to be 200Mhz. I thought the AM2 processors were 2.33 , 2.66 etc.

I only ask because people were saying the AM2 chips would not overclock because of the HTT would already be on the limit.

I'm really no expert though, so correct me if I am wrong. Otherwise, the AM2 will overclock just as well as 939 yes?

 

[Avalon]

Otherwise, the AM2 will overclock just as well as 939 yes?

Yes.

35w X2 3800+

At least, I hope.

 

[mamisano]

Latest news that I have been reading states that initial AM2 based chips will be utilizing the same HT speed as current 939 chips - 200x5 (1000mhz) instead of the rumored 233x5 (1333Mhz). This became more evident when it was revealed that AMD would support DDR2-800 which fits into the 200x5 scheme. This does not mean that future products won't be made with a higher HTT, but even the current speeds are no where near being fully utilized.

 

[BrownTown]

yes, the current bandwidth is more then enough, and no, the 35W X2 won't overclock well.

 

[StrangerGuy]

HTT speeds shouldn't really matter at all, since the A64 has a integrated memory controller.

 

[Cooler]

Good that means you can raise the HTT higher for better oc.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
and no, the 35W X2 won't overclock well.

You have absolutely no idea if that is accurate.

 

[BrownTown]

Turions don't overclock as well as A64s because of their low leakage transistors, so it is no far stretch to assume that low leakage transistors on the desktop platfrom will work the same. I expect them to have a good power/performance ratio at stock, but overclocking will likely not be easy. Maybe if you raise the voltage enough, but then there goes your power savings...

So, in once sense, yeah i have never tried to overclock one, so i don't know, on the other hand, common sense would tell me that overclocking is likely decreased. There is absolutely noway it will clock any better since if it did the top end parts would not be using a different process with 3X the power consumption. From the release roadmaps, and our current knowledge of AMD CPUs is there any eventuality in which you CAN see them being excellent overclockers?, becasue i cant. Of course you likely won't need an aftermarket cooler to overclock, so at least you save some money that way.

 

[imported_SLIM]

It is possible that they are simply speed binning these chips and not using physically different transistors for the low wattage line vs. regular. In THAT senario which may or may not be the way it works out these low wattage/voltage chips could be interesting.