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Am I wrong to side with PETA?

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Originally posted by: Insomniator
To side with PETA complaining the jockey should be suspended is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Get a grip.
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From here
"What we really want to know, did he feel anything along the way?" PETA spokeswoman Kathy Guillermo said. "If he didn't, then we can probably blame the fact that they're allowed to whip the horses mercilessly."
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and then here
But Jones says Saez acted exactly as he should have. He says the jockey started whipping the horse to prevent her from running into the rail.
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Preventing a second place horse from hitting the rail probably prevented the horse from tripping up and possibly injuring the several horses and jockeys behind it.
 
I thought that it was morally wrong to side with PETA... 😀

I don't like animal cruelty in the slightest, but I hate PETA more because the don't go after animal cruelty, they go after big things to draw attention to themselves to get more funds. They are just another greedy cooperation that tries to abuse peoples emotions to pay for their yachts.
 
You are wrong. There is no evidence that the jockey knew the horse was so seriously injured prior to the finish. PETA is just grandstanding this freak tragedy for the sake of their ideological agenda.
 
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I think you're a hippie and need to realize animals are NOT humans. These horses are NOT being mistreated and this horse was put out of its misery. Furthermore, I'd have no problem with eating horses if they tasted good. Hell, I'd cook and eat you if you tasted good. Fuck PETA.
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You sound crazy, maybe you need to be put down.
 
You have every right to side with PETA if you want to. You also have a right to express your opinions on animal cruelty, whether you agree with PETA or not. However, you do NOT have a right to try and force your ideas on others and make them feel guilty for eating meat or using animal products. As long as you don't do that it's perfectly fine to side with whomever you want.
 
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I think you're a hippie and need to realize animals are NOT humans. These horses are NOT being mistreated and this horse was put out of its misery. Furthermore, I'd have no problem with eating horses if they tasted good. Hell, I'd cook and eat you if you tasted good. Fuck PETA.
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I'm with you on this one.

I have no empathy with animals. Not with dogs, cats or anything. It's just how I am. I see no difference between an ant or a dog.
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I personally believe that any type of race where money and animals are involved should be illegal. From chickens to dogs to horses. I think I share in PETA's outrage concerning the situation with Eight Belles.

Perhaps we shoud do THIS to the owner? How do you think he'd feel?
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i know you're a wonderful human being, but PETA is not an organization you should align yourself with. PETA is a bunch of wackjobs who value animal life > human life.


these horses are born to run. it's unfortunate for them to break bones, and their owners/trainers i'm sure are sick over it. they love these animals, but stress fractures are unfortunately part of the deal at times.
 
Come to think of it, it is a savage thing. I have pushed myself to run hard in races and if somebody was whipping me to make me push even harder, yes it would make me run harder, but it's not right. Fox hunting, horse racing, bull fighting, all silly insane asinine activities.
 
PETA should be categorized as a cult w/ a bunch of hippies high on whatever shit they're on all the time. Dogs and cats get put down in animal shelters everyday, why don't they go protect at their city's SPCA? Oh that's right, nobody gives a fuck about local news. PETA is run by a bunch of attention whores who got banned from all the online forums.

I could give a shit about your animal rights when we have billions of humans suffering everyday around the globe. How about these PETA change their focus to something more meaningful.
 
Originally posted by: Baked
PETA should be categorized as a cult w/ a bunch of hippies high on whatever shit they're on all the time. Dogs and cats get put down in animal shelters everyday, why don't they go protect at their city's SPCA? Oh that's right, nobody gives a fuck about local news. PETA is run by a bunch of attention whores who got banned from all the online forums.

I could give a shit about your animal rights when we have billions of humans suffering everyday around the globe. How about these PETA change their focus to something more meaningful.
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yea, we should actually start breeding more animals anyway possible to create more meat to feed the homeless. People with too soft of hearts (oh no, don't eat the pretty, sweet, caring cow!) and too weak of stomaches (OMG YOU EVER SEE A SLAUGHTER HOUSE) are weaklings who die. People need to man up, and eat a steak. I love animals. But if my family is starving, I'll be out on the pasture slitting cows throats and enjoying it.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Come to think of it, it is a savage thing. I have pushed myself to run hard in races and if somebody was whipping me to make me push even harder, yes it would make me run harder, but it's not right. Fox hunting, horse racing, bull fighting, all silly insane asinine activities.
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Ok, since no one seems to realize this i'll just go ahead and educate everyone. Horses are FAR FAR FAR less sensitive to pain than humans are. You can kick a horse as hard as you want, you'll probably hurt yourself, but the horse won't be injured by it. He will simply feel it. Whipping these horses is not the torture for the horses that whipping humans would be. Its simply a prick to them telling them to go. Its by no means excruciating pain. Just like kicking them in the side when you are riding them is not excruciating pain. They are different than humans, stop fucking comparing them to humans.


And for the record, I like animals.


<----- huge dog lover.


 
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Come to think of it, it is a savage thing. I have pushed myself to run hard in races and if somebody was whipping me to make me push even harder, yes it would make me run harder, but it's not right. Fox hunting, horse racing, bull fighting, all silly insane asinine activities.
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Ok, since no one seems to realize this i'll just go ahead and educate everyone. Horses are FAR FAR FAR less sensitive to pain than humans are. You can kick a horse as hard as you want, you'll probably hurt yourself, but the horse won't be injured by it. He will simply feel it. Whipping these horses is not the torture for the horses that whipping humans would be. Its simply a prick to them telling them to go. Its by no means excruciating pain. Just like kicking them in the side when you are riding them is not excruciating pain. They are different than humans, stop fucking comparing them to humans.


And for the record, I like animals.


<----- huge dog lover.
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Originally posted by: jagec
Here's an idea: How about we prosecute cruelty as it comes up, rather than making absurd blanket bans that punish the responsible and the depraved equally.
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I think you're a hippie . . .
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Jeebus, fellah, it's 2008, please let your "hippy" angst go. Get a new cardboard character to hate. Muslims are big now, why not go with them? :roll:

As usual, the real story here is a bit more complicated than PETA or bigoted knee-jerk retards want you to believe:

Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of The Humane Society of the United States, expressed frustration Monday, saying the sport should be pushed to do more to protect horses.

"This industry has not had a rigorous critic to set it in the straight and narrow, and major problems have grown and festered," Pacelle said in a statement. "It's time for the thoroughbred industry to deal with its problems, and if it does not, animal advocates may well decide they can no longer continue to give the industry a free pass.

"Here are some of the historic problems: Drugging of injured horses to keep them running, which makes vulnerable horses more susceptible to breakdowns. Racing horses too young. Because the marquee events feature 3-year-olds, these horses must start racing at the tender age of 2 years, and that's well before their skeletal systems are sturdy enough to endure the pounding from the rigors of the race track. And third, racing horses on track surfaces that are not forgiving -- with American tracks favoring dirt surfaces over grass or synthetics.

"And then there are the problems coming to light more than ever -- problems related to breeding. Breeding too many horses, and waiting for someone else to clean up the problem. And breeding them for body characteristics that make these animals vulnerable to breakdowns, especially those spindly legs on top of these stout torsos."
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From ESPN.


 
i like wearing animals, sitting in cars on top of animal hides, watching animals run, and eatting animals. i love animals. also have you seen how well these horses are treated? i'd run a mile and a 1/2 once every 3 weeks to get their treatment.
 
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