Am I worth higher pay?

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Bryan

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Are you still delivering pizzas once in a while, or strictlly managing? For delivery boy pay, $8 + tips isn't bad. Do they cover mileage or gas?

Besides, it's all worth it if you can deliver "extra anchovies" here and there.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'm 22 years old and I'm in college. I have worked very hard for a restaurant for nearly 4 years. I have experience delivering pizzas and as a manager at this restaurant. I currently make a little over 8 dollars an hour.

Am I worth a job that pays more? My friends think I should find a higher paying job.

what makes you think you are worth what you get paid now?
People dont get paid for what their worth or the time you have served there... they get paid for the duties they perform...

self entitlement ...FTL
 

habib89

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since you have retail management experience just apply for management positions at other retail stores.. they make way more than that.. you're probably a long ways off from head manager, but my head manager at safeway back when i worked there 10 years ago made over 100k with OT and bonuses... so either approach your higher-ups and ask for a raise.. apply for other jobs.. do something...

so short answer, yes, you are worth higher pay, but you can't get a higher pay unless you go and get it
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: sao123
what makes you think you are worth what you get paid now?
People dont get paid for what their worth or the time you have served there... they get paid for the duties they perform...

self entitlement ...FTL

I really wasn't asking if the restaurant I work at now should be paying me more...I was asking if I had the skills and experience to land a better paying job.

Originally posted by: Zolty
8-0.17 = 7.93???

I said I was making a little OVER 8 dollars an hour. Now do the math.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: sao123
what makes you think you are worth what you get paid now?
People dont get paid for what their worth or the time you have served there... they get paid for the duties they perform...

self entitlement ...FTL

I really wasn't asking if the restaurant I work at now should be paying me more...I was asking if I had the skills and experience to land a better paying job.

Originally posted by: Zolty
8-0.17 = 7.93???

I said I was making a little OVER 8 dollars an hour. Now do the math.


Being a 22yr old Delivery Driver & a Pizza Shop Manager arent exactly skills in demand...
what other Un-(pizzaria)-related skills & abilities do you have, and what job do they qualify you to perform?


Hard Working... Motivated... Willing to Learn... These are necessary traits... but they are not skills...

This is a good Example...
Can you lift heavy Boxes? UPS pays college kids to load truck about $10 per hour


Can you type?... be a data entry clerk
Can you pour drinks?... be a bar tender
Can you sell stuff?... Be a salesman



Your friends think you should find a higher paying job?
I think you should go to a school and get some useful skills...
Figure out a lifelong career track for yourself, and Go to College, Go to Nursing/Trade/Tech School, Get a CDL/Engineer/Conductor/Pilot License, just get some edumication.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: sao123
Being a 22yr old Delivery Driver & a Pizza Shop Manager arent exactly skills in demand...
what other Un-(pizzaria)-related skills & abilities do you have, and what job do they qualify you to perform?


Hard Working... Motivated... Willing to Learn... These are necessary traits... but they are not skills...

This is a good Example...
Can you lift heavy Boxes? UPS pays college kids to load truck about $10 per hour


Can you type?... be a data entry clerk
Can you pour drinks?... be a bar tender
Can you sell stuff?... Be a salesman



Your friends think you should find a higher paying job?
I think you should go to a school and get some useful skills...
Figure out a lifelong career track for yourself, and Go to College, Go to Nursing/Trade/Tech School, Get a CDL/Engineer/Conductor/Pilot License, just get some edumication.

Well this is where I don't feel so bad. I am going to take a year off before transfering and majoring in some sort of Business related field (Marketing, finance, etc). At least I'm working toward something...however when I take that year off I would like a better job. I've thought about UPS or Costco or something...
 

Cobalt

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You are a manager and make $8 an hour? I'm a computer sales associate at Circuit City and I make $9 an hour...
 

SeventySeven

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I earned more when I was in HS/college, and that was 15 years ago... LOL

(so, yes to your question).
 

Scarpozzi

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Now is the time man.... You are 22. Start building your resume and try to get an office job somewhere. It really doesn't matter what you do, but try to meet as many people as you can in high places because the more friends you can make, the better chance you have of scoring a job through people networking. Once you get an entry-level somewhere, you can work your way up and eventually get a decent job doing something fun. I've been building my resume since I was 19......that's 7 years and I'm doing something totally different than what my college degrees are in. Go figure. :p

 

fire400

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here's the deal. don't settle for anything under 30K. Even 30K is nothing, but anything is better something nothing.

your goal is to master everything that you can think of. basic math to computer office apps to financial studies. once you've mastered that with a college degree, you 'might' be somewhere. you're going up against people with people skills who don't know jack with office applications or are even that good at higher level math. so my suggestion is that once you've looked into a job that you enjoy doing, work harder at obtaining the skills and people skills required to get you there. otherwise, have fun with pizza.
 

Krazy4Real

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I don't understand why you spent 4 years there if it seems like you're not really going anywhere. Ask your boss for a raise, if he refuses start actively looking. You need to take some initiative though. If your boss thinks you're happy, he's usually not going to spontaneously give you a raise for no reason. You need to state to him what you think you are worth and why. Go and ask him for $10/hr. Say you've been doing the job for 4 years. You know what you're doing, and you do a good job. State all your responsibilities, and then say that in order to justify staying there you need to make more money to offset your cost of living.
 

D1gger

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My daughter has worked in retail for the last 1 1/2 years, and makes considerably more than $8/hr. She is still in high school.
 

AmigaMan

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I made $7.50/hr as a shift supervisor at Wendy's when i was in college 11 years ago. I quit that lame job and got an internship my senior year and made $11.50/hr. Quit yer whining and find another job. Better yet, don't work so damn much and concentrate on getting good grades.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
I made $7.50/hr as a shift supervisor at Wendy's when i was in college 11 years ago. I quit that lame job and got an internship my senior year and made $11.50/hr. Quit yer whining and find another job. Better yet, don't work so damn much and concentrate on getting good grades.

I made 12 bucks an hour X 40 moving furniture, PLUS 15-20 hours 1.5 overtime.

And this was when the amiga2000 was an awesome machine and I had to deal with FatAgnus. I am not fibbing.
 

angminas

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Wow, what a bunch of jerky responses. OP wasn't whining or acting entitled or asking you how much more you make. He asked for info, and a lot of you picked on him. Make fun of the poor kid- very 7th grade.

There isn't enough info there for us to really say what you're worth. But don't stay at that job at that pay rate any longer than you absolutely have to. Unfortunately, if you've worked there this long, odds are decent that they see you as an underachiever, regardless of whether you are or not. This may make it difficult to convince them to give you any more than they are now. The harsh truth is, hard work doesn't tend to get one respect in the eyes of many restaurant owners. One possible way for someone with GM experience to make a lot of money is to make an arrangement with the owner of several franchise stores that you will get to buy a store from him as a condition of your employment. It's not uncommon for them to back out of it, though.

FINISH COLLEGE. Even if you can't get a degree in something you want. Any degree is better than no degree- it will get you a start in something better (assuming you're not interested in a lifelong career in the restaurant business). I would not recommend taking a year off unless you absolutely must, because a year off often turns into ten years off.

It sounds like you need more confidence, which could possibly be holding you back in management. If you're lacking skill in dealing with customers or speaking to your employees, get some help with that from someone whose behavior you respect. Exercising authority appropriately is an art, and it takes practice and understanding. In most situations, you don't want to get people to do things, you want to get them to WANT to do things. When you come from that perspective, you can also work with the idea not that the thing needs to be done, but that the thing WILL be done, but you don't have to be pushy or disrespectful. You also inspire them to do things right even when you're not around. Note how the third example is better than the first two:


--"We have an ID policy. I need your driver's license." Don't order the customer.

--"Can I see your ID? We've been getting a lot of bad checks lately." Don't accuse the customer.

--"If you don't mind, with checks, we're just supposed to take a quick look at your ID." Make the customer a partner in an impersonal necessity of business. Don't ask them, don't order them, just know that the customer is reasonable, and he will have no problem letting you see that ID before you take their check. Tone of voice and body language are as important as the words, but they're hard to put into print. Diminutive words like "just" and "quick" make it sound like a small hassle and like you know they're not trying to scam you.

Also, suppose you have an employee who knows how to do something right but does it her own way anyway:
--"You can't do it that way. You need to do it like this and like this and like this. Got it?" Stubborn doesn't always equal stupid. And maybe they actually have a good reason you haven't thought of.

--"Hey, stop doing it that way and do it right. I've shown you time and again, and I'm tired of getting griped at." Stubborn people are usually not easily intimidated, so all this approach does is create tension where it's not usually necessary or helpful. Only once in a great while should you ever need to talk anything like this.

--"Hey, uh, do me a favor. You remember that other way of doing that we showed you? Well, that's the way I'm supposed to have you do it, so if you could do it that way, I'd appreciate it, ok? I know you have reasons for your way, and I appreciate that it saves time, but we really need to get that thing clean every day. Can you help me out with this?" You have to do this in a confident manner so you're not begging, you're telling them you know they're on your side. Many people will respond positively and end up, in fact, on your side, wanting to please you.

To be an effective manager, you have to do more than just make good pizzas and balance the books - you have to get your bosses, crew, and customers all on your side. If you find yourself not really interested in leadership (nothing wrong with that), you should get out of the restaurant business ASAP, because usually the only people who make money in restaurants are the leader types.