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Am I the only one who hate push pins?

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nyker96

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Got a simple IP35-E//E2140//ACF pro 7//4gb HP RAM setup. put it together 6 months ago. Just this past weekend, moved all to a new case. And the ACF pro 7's push pin took me like 1/2 hour to secure into the m.b. (you push this one in, the other one pops out) then just today the machine went BSOD at my old 3.1Ghz OC setting. Ran ortho and the temp is like 7-10C higher than the day I put it in. Appearantly the HSF is dangling from one of the pins becoming loose.

Totally fed up with this push pin business. Cheap, unsecure, takes too long to get it in. Now I have to take the machine apart again. Ordered two sets of sidewindercomputer.com 's bolt-thru kits. See how it goes next week when I get it.

I hate Intel for design this useless installation method! Even AMD's clip on does a lot better job at securing the HSF.

P.S.: sorry for venting my frustration here. Just hate them!!
 
ahahahhahaha.,.,

its okey, i let everyone vent about push pins.

yes there extremely crappy, and no i havent touched them since P4-D days.
 
They may work great the first time, but by god, the second time, those plastic pins seem like they're a one time deal!
 
Heh, you're preaching to the choir. There must be a new thread posted every week about the evils of the Intel push-pin mechanism :laugh:.
 
I just got a Xigmatek S1283 for my workstation -- pretty similar cooler to the Vendetta. I couldn't even gently pry the pins out to use my bolt-thru kit without the stinkin' pin tabs snapping and breaking off :roll:. So much for reinstalling and reusing those pins later. (All four broke.)
 
Originally posted by: AmberClad
I just got a Xigmatek S1283 for my workstation -- pretty similar cooler to the Vendetta. I couldn't even gently pry the pins out to use my bolt-thru kit without the stinkin' pin tabs snapping and breaking off :roll:. So much for reinstalling and reusing those pins later. (All four broke.)
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I have a Klein coax cutter that will cut through them with no problem. Thanks for saving me the time of messing around with 'em. 🙂
 
When I build my first Q6600 box, I was so green I actually started to use the stock cooler. Inserting it didn't give me that "positive lock" good feeling I expected. I had already decided to go to Fry's for an after-market cooler, when I broke my push pins getting the stock cooler back out. I bought a Zalman 9700 not particularly for performance; it attached with a bolt-through kit and a backplate, which made sense to me.

Never again. Any manufacturer with the nerve to be lazy enough to use push pins had better officially tell me what bolt-through kits I can substitute, or they're out of consideration. Why are consumers being so cheap paying the last $10 for a part that can lift the performance of a $200 processor into the $1000 range?

Of course, we're all hypocrites, we leave the push pins alone on the rest of our motherboard because we don't have to touch them. If this is a "hate" thread, why are they still there?

I've read in AnandTech reviews about reapplying TIM to other motherboard heatsinks, and replacing all push pins with a decent screw combination. I just can't remember which article, and which screw combination was recommended. Don't want to introduce any shorts...
 
I hate them too.
I ended up dumping my ACV pro 7 for a Zerotherm CF900 just so I could avoid the push pins.
Thanks for the mention of bolt through kits.
 
Bolt thru kit all the way. Best $5+ I have spent... Oh and AmberClad, You're not the only one to have the Xigmatek push pins break when trying to remove them in favor of a bolt thru kit.
 
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
They may work great the first time, but by god, the second time, those plastic pins seem like they're a one time deal!
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I have two test heatsinks that have push pins... between the two heatsinks I've re-used them probably 30 times. One of them has a couple pins starting to show wear (a bit bent up) but still works. Just gotta be careful and know the trick to installing them. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
They may work great the first time, but by god, the second time, those plastic pins seem like they're a one time deal!
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I have two test heatsinks that have push pins... between the two heatsinks I've re-used them probably 30 times. One of them has a couple pins starting to show wear (a bit bent up) but still works. Just gotta be careful and know the trick to installing them. 😉
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Well, they do call me ole' fumble fingers... 😕
 
Satan designed the push-pin retention style, & Intel bought it from him.

End of story.
 
Well, now I know not to ever use the OEM HSF mechanism with intel based rigs... though I admit the cam mechanism for AMD's 939 (et al) leave a lot to be desired, as well. The only kind I ever actually liked was the bolt-through design that the alpha PAL8045 used on the Socket A mobos back in the day.
 
I have no problems with push pins as long as the MB is outside of the case...which kinda defeats the purpose of the push pins. D'Oh! 😕

A lagre flathead screwdriver is your best friend when dealing with push pins.
 
I just bought a bolt thru kit from Sidewinder, and several other small items. Would have bought more, but 1/2 of what I wanted is out of stock.
Check out their amazing Reseller Ratings = 9.78
 
Can anyone confirm which coolers this bolt-through kit works with? I know they list the standard TR ones, but what about others like Xigmatek and Arctic?
 
I agree, Zap. While push pins are seen as evil and worthless, one has to understand how they work. If the black top isn't correctly aligned, the pins will fail in installation. But they're no harder to use than anything else.....and they can be taken apart and removed pretty easily if you just take a minute or two, anyway, with a small flat blade screwdriver or a set of hemostats.

The trouble I've noticed mostly is people trying to push the pins into the motherboard when the tops are turned the wrong way and/or the black portion is already pushed through the white bottom portion before trying to insert the pins into the motherboard. Once you understand how they work, they're very easy to install and don't spontaneously pop off......but I'd bet few, if any, here read the "complicated" instructions on how to really install with them.
 
This rig im running now was my First intel rig. I didnt realize they use these pin things and for that reason alone i wont be buying another intel rig. Mounting the stock heatsink was a bitch then mounting my Zalman CNPS9500 was even bigger of a bitch. I dont see why they had to be so lazy as to just drill 4 holes in the motherboard.
 
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