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Am I living in the same world as everyone else?

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A lot of people in this country (i.e., democrats) are complaing that the Bush administration is somehow not allowing themselves to be criticized, yet everytime I turn on CNN, MSNBC, or FOX News there is some guest on criticizing the war or an administration policy. 😕
 


<< A lot of people in this country (i.e., democrats) are complaing that the Bush administration is somehow not allowing themselves to be criticized, yet everytime I turn on CNN, MSNBC, or FOX News there is some guest on criticizing the war or an administration policy. 😕 >>


Who is saying this? How can someone force others not to to say something about them? 😕
 
A lot of democrats in Congress have publicly stated that the Bush administration is preventing criticism of themselves by labeling criticism as unpatriotic. But their compliant is completely unfounded.
 
Man, you gotta just realise that people promote their own team. Don't be so anal and take it so personally.
Relax or die an early death.
 


<< Man, you gotta just realise that people promote their own team. Don't be so anal and take it so personally.
Relax or die an early death. >>


maybe I want to die an early death
 
I believe much of the media and most politicians live in a different world. It's not a place I care to visit often.
 


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<< Man, you gotta just realise that people promote their own team. Don't be so anal and take it so personally.
Relax or die an early death. >>


maybe I want to die an early death >>


don't tease us like that. :Q



j/k only kidding man! 😉
 


<< A lot of democrats in Congress have publicly stated that the Bush administration is preventing criticism of themselves by labeling criticism as unpatriotic. But their compliant is completely unfounded. >>


hmmm... I don't think that the Bush administration is calling them 'un-patriotic? (officially at least), but there may be people writing editorials, special interest groups, or people on this forum. 😉
 
Who wants to live in the same world as everyone else?

I suspect this is really what people want all along and spend a good amount of life trying to get to that point. What they fail to realize is that by living life and going through the processes, they really are in the same world as everyone else. No matter how hard we try to escape ourselves, we're still here. Unlearning all the sort of stuff that makes us think we are special and in a different world is where the real hard work takes place and is usually done by life itself.

Cheers ! 🙂
 


<< Who wants to live in the same world as everyone else?

I suspect this is really what people want all along and spend a good amount of life trying to get to that point. What they fail to realize is that by living life and going through the processes, they really are in the same world as everyone else. No matter how hard we try to escape ourselves, we're still here. Unlearning all the sort of stuff that makes us think we are special and in a different world is where the real hard work takes place and is usually done by life itself.

Cheers ! 🙂 >>



He's one up on me, drat. Well, my reference wasn't so much to living in different worlds as to seeing the world from different perspectives. Everyone does, mainstream culture encourages seeing it through their specific set of lenses, I'd prefer my view to be mobile, able to look from different people's points of view at different times, essentially rejecting the mono-view of popculture. I'm babbling, I daresay. Ignore as you choose.
 
He's one up on me, drat. Well, my reference wasn't so much to living in different worlds as to seeing the world from different perspectives. Everyone does, mainstream culture encourages seeing it through their specific set of lenses, I'd prefer my view to be mobile, able to look from different people's points of view at different times, essentially rejecting the mono-view of popculture. I'm babbling, I daresay. Ignore as you choose.

But. Oh she got that. What about...? Nope, it's foolproof. But then aren't these just masks? I started wearing contact lenses the other day. When I take them out, I stumble around looking for my glasses, which of course are broken. I think many people are like this. They switch lenses thinking that this really is it and rearrange prejudices but in the end, it's the fools who break their glasses and take out contact lenses who may be in the same world as the other blind (and hence everyone else). Hey, at least we know we can't see. Some others think that the lens is what's really there. Of course some do see. But are they "I" in the same sense that I am "I"?

Cheers ! 🙂
 


Reminds me of a debate between a minister friend of mine. He said that people want to be with each other and I said that we are all islands going through life. I think I am right, at least for me, but I still wonder sometimes about that debate.

Do you think we are island going through life, or that we want other people in our lives?

I guess different people will have diverse ideas about it, but I kind of think about this stuff a lot.
 
I think we should be glad we're not a united people most of the time - it's when we speak with a common voice that the sh*t usually hits the fan.

It's a cynical thought, but think of history and you'll kind of see what I mean.
 
Poeple complain. If they have nothing to complain about, they complain that they have nothing to complain about.

Yes, we are all asswipes.😀
 


<< I think we should be glad we're not a united people most of the time - it's when we speak with a common voice that the sh*t usually hits the fan.

It's a cynical thought, but think of history and you'll kind of see what I mean. >>



Heh. The contrast between our avatars seems amusing. Oh and I don't think that's the point we're talking about right now. Your point of groupthink as an inferior decision-making strategy has merit though, I think. And it's not really cynical. It just speaks of the dark possibilities present in humans but it also means that with the darkness, there is light.

that we are all islands going through life. I think I am right, at least for me, but I still wonder sometimes about that debate.

I usually say something to the effect of: we are each alone in the solitude of our minds. And then I think about that. It doesn't seem right. I'm not really alone. I'd like to think I'm alone but that's not really true. What happens when consciousness is shared? What happens when you're making love and you experience another person and that shared moment becomes a part of both of you in exactly the same way. What then? What happens when you're walking on a beach and you see a child running barefoot and she stops to grin at you and you grin back, both feeling nothing save the squishy sand between your toes. What then? Yeah, I'd like to think I'm alone since it gives me so much security to be able to wrap a blanket around myself and yell out that I'm going to make it. But that's just not the way things are, I think. We're human. Nothing human is foreign. Or as Zenmervolt puts it, every man who strives to be an island will eventually be reached by one who strives to be an ocean.

Cheers ! 🙂
 


<< Who is saying this? How can someone force others not to to say something about them? 😕 >>


Bush isn't trying to do that...people are saying that he's trying to do that....
 
"it's when we speak with a common voice that the sh*t usually hits the fan."

The cult of the individual has become our common voice.

 
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