Am I frying my new dual core processor?

[nqbus]

All,

Just put my upgrades in place.

Asus CROSSHAIR n590 SLI Mobo
AMD 5200+ x2 64 bit Processor
2GB OCZ Titanium PC6400 DDR2 800 EPP RAM
eVGA GeForce 8800 GTS 640mb Vid Card
Thermaltake BWS8000WS Super Tower


First off I put a monstrous Gigabyte cooling fan on this chip. Using Asus's PC Probe software, my CPU temp is about mid 70's when I check it just while surfing the new, or d/l mp3s. I am scared to see it in WWII Online or anything that could tax the CPU. Tried to run 3dMark06, but computer only made it through Graphics test. Once CPU test started, computer rebooted.

Guess I need to know what temp this dual core CPU is supposed to run at, and could there be a BIOS setting that makes the computer reboot if CPU temp gets "too high."

Thank you all for your time.

NQBUS

 

[secretanchitman]

what kind of processor....amd/intel?

what are the temps?

 

[lyssword]

is cpu Fan running? Is heatsink well-fitted? Did you put too much thermal paste or too little? Is cpu voltage below 1.4v?

 

[nqbus]

Alos,

The Thermaltake Tower has a 120mm intake fan, a 120mm exhaust fan in the center of the back, a 90mm exhaust fan behind the HDs in the back as well.

Not sure this has any impact on the chip, but thought I would mention it.

NQBUS

 

[nqbus]

Lyssword,

Got a lot of voltages on this PC Probe. Is it VCore; SB Core; NB Core or something else?

NQBUS

 

[nqbus]

CPU fan is running 2934 rpm.

NQBUS

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: nqbus
Lyssword,

Got a lot of voltages on this PC Probe. Is it VCore; SB Core; NB Core or something else?

NQBUS

vcore1 and 2 (there should be 2 because it's a dual core) should be below 1.4v for amd cpu's. It's most likely is below 1.4 tho, unless you set it otherwise

Also make sure the degrees are in C not F
And if you can, tell me all the other stats, like memory frequency/voltage/timings, cpu clock etc If the cpu is not overheating, computer restarts could still be caused by memory configuration (timings too tight, voltage too low/high)

 

[MarcVenice]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
what kind of processor....amd/intel?

what are the temps?

are you kidding ? an AMD 5200+ x2 64 bit Processor, did you expect him to say intel ?

anywayz, your cpu is DEFINATELY running to hot, according to pcprobe, what I would do is get speedfan though, and check out what that program says. Also, I've been reading that the heatsensors aren't all that great, and can report temperatures up to 15 degrees to high or to low. What scares me is that your pc reboots when it gets to the cpu test, which doesn't necesarly mean your cpu is getting to hot, but chances are it is.

Another thing I would do, go download orthos, and stresstest your cpu, on blend mode. Run speedfan/pcprobe while doing so, monitor your temperatures, if they really go up high, past 70 cancel orthos immediatly. If your pc reboots, or if it errors, before it even gets to hot, then theres something wrong with your ram/cpu settings.

 

[cvrefugee]

70C = HOT!
70F = COOL!

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
what kind of processor....amd/intel?

what are the temps?

are you kidding ? an AMD 5200+ x2 64 bit Processor, did you expect him to say intel ?

.

He edited his original post..he probably didn't mention the CPU at first..

If your CPU is running at 70c..thats definatly too hot. You need to make sure your heatsink is fully seated. Feel the base of the heatsink. If you are reading 70c, and the heatsink isn't warm/hot to the touch, it's not making proper contact. Too much thermal paste is just as bad as not enough(you did use thermal paste?)

In comparison, my 4200+ X2 runs at 51c max load, overclocked to 2.6ghz on the stock heatsink..

 

[nqbus]

Originally posted by: stevty2889

Originally posted by: MarcVenice

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
what kind of processor....amd/intel?

what are the temps?

are you kidding ? an AMD 5200+ x2 64 bit Processor, did you expect him to say intel ?

.

He edited his original post..he probably didn't mention the CPU at first..

If your CPU is running at 70c..thats definatly too hot. You need to make sure your heatsink is fully seated. Feel the base of the heatsink. If you are reading 70c, and the heatsink isn't warm/hot to the touch, it's not making proper contact. Too much thermal paste is just as bad as not enough(you did use thermal paste?)

In comparison, my 4200+ X2 runs at 51c max load, overclocked to 2.6ghz on the stock heatsink..

 

[nqbus]

All,

First, Wanna say thanks to stevty2889, cvrefugee, marcvenice, lyssword, and secretanchitman for the responses.

Took my tower to the tech who put in the fan today after reading your posts. CPU temp at idle was between 53-55 Celsius. He took off the fan and I saw just a spot of paste on the chip and not completely covering it. We first cleaned off the chip and applied a more even coat across the chip and then installed the original AMD stock fan that came with the chip. CPU temp at idle went to 31 Celsius and hovered there. Interesting to note the stock AMD CPU fan turns approx 3100+ rpm, where this Gigabyte 3d Cooler runs only about 2900+ when at full tilt.

Nonetheless, we re-installed the Giagbyte 3D fan and the idle temp is stable at about 34 Celsius (almost 21 degrres celsius cooler than yesterday). Still not ready to try 3d mark 06 again yet till I have a chance to get some Artic Silver 5 paste from Radio Shack. Will have to wait until tomorrow as they are closed Easter Sunday. As for the PC probe being off by some margin compared to other programs that measure temp, Everest Ultimate Edition has the CPU temp within a celsius degree or two.

Some of the measurements are as follows (not truly knowing what all of these are):

SB PLL-1.58V
DDR2- 1.92V
CPU-34 deg C
Mobo- 31 deg C
CPU-2934 rpm
VCore- 1.34V
+3.3- 3.28V
+5.0- 4.95V
+12- 12.29V
ESATA- 1.82V
LAN PHY- 1.71V
NB Core- 1.22V
NB 2.5V- 2.58V
DDR2 Term- .96V
SB Core- 1.58V
(Running an OCZ 600W SLI Power Supply)

Thanks again for your comments. Really hoping I can get a few more degrees cooling from Artic Silver vice the stuff that came with the Gigabyte fan.

NQBUS

 

[MarcVenice]

looks like a case of badly applied thermal paste. You can safely benchmark your pc now ... coz 31 celsius at idle is low enough ... at load it shouldnt do to much over 50, and stay below 55ish ...

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
looks like a case of badly applied thermal paste. You can safely benchmark your pc now ... coz 31 celsius at idle is low enough ... at load it shouldnt do to much over 50, and stay below 55ish ...

Actually, with 31C @ idle, it should load @ less than 50C, and probably closer to 45C. He isn't overclocked.

 

[MarcVenice]

nah I ment, if something would be going wrong, coz he isnt convinced it is running low enough yet. I didn't for a second think it would go above 50 at load. For some reason he wants to apply some arctic silver, which, as far as im concerned won't drop his temps enough to be even noticable

 

[nqbus]

MarcVenice,

Probably won't make a discernable difference, but I will sleep better knowing Artic Silver is on there. Gonna try WWII Online tonight and see what frame rate differences I have between the 8800 GTS at 640mb, and the two 6800 GTs I used to have in SLI mode.

Surely there will be a noticeable difference there.

NQ