Although I dislike most GMs...

Quixfire

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I do like the new Chevy Monte Carlo. What GM needs to do is include this design on to their new rear wheel drive chassis and it could get the Mustang a run for it's money.

And Ford needs to develop a car like this in order to be more competitive.
 

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
I do like the new Chevy Monte Carlo. What GM needs to do is include this design on to their new rear wheel drive chassis and it could get the Mustang a run for it's money.

And Ford needs to develop a car like this in order to be more competitive.

It certainly has that MC look...would be sweet with the GTO drivetrain.
 

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
I do like the new Chevy Monte Carlo. What GM needs to do is include this design on to their new rear wheel drive chassis and it could get the Mustang a run for it's money.

And Ford needs to develop a car like this in order to be more competitive.

Doesn't Ford now own Jaguar? Maybe they are gonna slim down their brand offering? Jaguar seems to be doing well.
 

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Its alright, looks like it has for a while now, but is this going to suffer from the low HP - high weight that has plagued it for a while now? If that supercharged V6 puts out enough power... then its (still only) OK. The problem with the Monte is that considering its price it has always been underpowered...
 

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Quixfire

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Originally posted by: crab
Originally posted by: Quixfire
I do like the new Chevy Monte Carlo. What GM needs to do is include this design on to their new rear wheel drive chassis and it could get the Mustang a run for it's money.

And Ford needs to develop a car like this in order to be more competitive.

It certainly has that MC look...would be sweet with the GTO drivetrain.
I think this package could even give the GTO a run for it's money, Monte Carlo SS Supercharged
 

crab

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: crab
Originally posted by: Quixfire
I do like the new Chevy Monte Carlo. What GM needs to do is include this design on to their new rear wheel drive chassis and it could get the Mustang a run for it's money.

And Ford needs to develop a car like this in order to be more competitive.

It certainly has that MC look...would be sweet with the GTO drivetrain.
I think this package could even give the GTO a run for it's money, Monte Carlo SS Supercharged

Not bad...What trans options?

 

crab

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Originally posted by: crab
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: crab
Originally posted by: Quixfire
I do like the new Chevy Monte Carlo. What GM needs to do is include this design on to their new rear wheel drive chassis and it could get the Mustang a run for it's money.

And Ford needs to develop a car like this in order to be more competitive.

It certainly has that MC look...would be sweet with the GTO drivetrain.
I think this package could even give the GTO a run for it's money, Monte Carlo SS Supercharged

Not bad...What trans options?

You know...I drove a '99 Park Avenue S/C with those same numbers...although a fairly different car, it certainly didnt feel like anything worth mentioning was under the hood.
 

Quixfire

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Originally posted by: crab
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: crab
Originally posted by: Quixfire
I do like the new Chevy Monte Carlo. What GM needs to do is include this design on to their new rear wheel drive chassis and it could get the Mustang a run for it's money.

And Ford needs to develop a car like this in order to be more competitive.

It certainly has that MC look...would be sweet with the GTO drivetrain.
I think this package could even give the GTO a run for it's money, Monte Carlo SS Supercharged

Not bad...What trans options?
Automatic :(

 

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I think this package could even give the GTO a run for it's money, Monte Carlo SS Supercharged

Doubtful. GTO has over a 110 more horsies and a good 80ft/lbs more torqure and only weighs 200 pounds more.
 

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Well, it looks better than the one I had.
That was just a lumina with two of the doors chopped off. GM really didn't try on that one.

The new SS might be cool. Although when optioned you are approaching $30K msrp.
 

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
I think this package could even give the GTO a run for it's money, Monte Carlo SS Supercharged

Doubtful. GTO has over a 110 more horsies and a good 80ft/lbs more torqure and only weighs 200 pounds more.

^ he's right. The Monte SS SCed would be more like a 15 sec quarter mile (Monte is a heavy car), and the GTO would be more like mid/low 13s. But thats not to take away from the 3800 in the Monte, which is a great engine and is easily modded when the supercharger is bolted onto it.
 

CraigRT

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Monte Carlo = foogly
it's nothing to be proud of compared to the old Monte's IMO.. same with the Malibu.. poop compared to the originals :p
 

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Originally posted by: kenshorin
Its alright, looks like it has for a while now, but is this going to suffer from the low HP - high weight that has plagued it for a while now? If that supercharged V6 puts out enough power... then its (still only) OK. The problem with the Monte is that considering its price it has always been underpowered...

Always? You do know there were 454ci Big Block Chevy versions of the Monte at one time right?

 

Rent

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Originally posted by: Cfour
Originally posted by: vi_edit
I think this package could even give the GTO a run for it's money, Monte Carlo SS Supercharged
Doubtful. GTO has over a 110 more horsies and a good 80ft/lbs more torqure and only weighs 200 pounds more.
^ he's right. The Monte SS SCed would be more like a 15 sec quarter mile (Monte is a heavy car), and the GTO would be more like mid/low 13s. But thats not to take away from the 3800 in the Monte, which is a great engine and is easily modded when the supercharger is bolted onto it.

Its just like a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP with different body panels. Except the new GTPs get the Gen III L67 and not the Gen II. (260hp vs 240hp, same torque rating)

FYI they run ~high 14s stock. A GTO would beat it easily. However, there are lots of mods availble for the motor and they can be made into 12 second cars pretty easily. It just sucks that the wrong wheels get the power :p
 

Ornery

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"And Ford needs to develop a car like this in order to be more competitive. "

Ford blew it. Putting a candy-ass engine in what could have been a real car...
 

Quixfire

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Originally posted by: Frdm51472
Originally posted by: kenshorin
Its alright, looks like it has for a while now, but is this going to suffer from the low HP - high weight that has plagued it for a while now? If that supercharged V6 puts out enough power... then its (still only) OK. The problem with the Monte is that considering its price it has always been underpowered...

Always? You do know there were 454ci Big Block Chevy versions of the Monte at one time right?
Do you remember the Chevy Monte Carlo Laguna S4 built between 73-74?
 

Quixfire

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Originally posted by: Ornery
"And Ford needs to develop a car like this in order to be more competitive. "

Ford blew it. Putting a candy-ass engine in what could have been a real car...
Agreed, that car could have been built better, but it doesn't solve the fact that Ford's only mid-size two door coupe is the Mustang. I would like to see a performance coupe built on the new Ford 500 platform.
 

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: Frdm51472
Originally posted by: kenshorin
Its alright, looks like it has for a while now, but is this going to suffer from the low HP - high weight that has plagued it for a while now? If that supercharged V6 puts out enough power... then its (still only) OK. The problem with the Monte is that considering its price it has always been underpowered...

Always? You do know there were 454ci Big Block Chevy versions of the Monte at one time right?
Do you remember the Chevy Monte Carlo Laguna S4 built between 73-74?

Yeah, they were sleds still though, 70-72 was the prime for the Monte.
 

EXman

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Man that is a great way to lose money you can buy 2 year old ones here for CHEAP. ugly too go get a pontiac IMO.
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: Ornery
"And Ford needs to develop a car like this in order to be more competitive. "

Ford blew it. Putting a candy-ass engine in what could have been a real car...
Agreed, that car could have been built better, but it doesn't solve the fact that Ford's only mid-size two door coupe is the Mustang. I would like to see a performance coupe built on the new Ford 500 platform.
They probably still have the molds for these...
 

Quixfire

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: Ornery
"And Ford needs to develop a car like this in order to be more competitive. "

Ford blew it. Putting a candy-ass engine in what could have been a real car...
Agreed, that car could have been built better, but it doesn't solve the fact that Ford's only mid-size two door coupe is the Mustang. I would like to see a performance coupe built on the new Ford 500 platform.
They probably still have the molds for these...
Yep they still could bring back the Mark VIII, but it was built off the Thunderbird platform, which of course has been discontinued. I would prefer something along the lines of the Torino in comparable size and function; maybe even add a convertible option. :D
 

Ornery

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There's a market for something that will really perform, whether it's $20,000, or $40,000. When is the Firebird and Camaro coming back?