Alpha PAL8045

[Turbo55]

<< I'm seriously considering changing out the noisy Delta 68-cfm fan that's sitting on top of my PAL8045 with something quieter. It's just too overwhelming when you can hear it from the living room...... >>



LOL

I hope your living room from your room is not 50 feet away.

 

[tjames214]

Just a small note on thermal paste. Arctic Silver 3 is coming out soon to replace Arctic Silver 2. One, you could use this to your advantage to get AS2 cheap. Or two, you could wait for AS3 since it will be the same price AS2 was.

 

[|TOAST|]

I've used both the AC2 (on Athlon 1700+ XP and gotten it up to 2000+ speeds) and the Radio shack stuff on about 10 K6-2/K6-3/orignial athon/P2/P3(slot one and FC-PGA setups). In my opinion I think RAM is gonna crap out first in terms of being the weakest link for OCing a system. But, the CPU can be a pricy investment at the time of purchase so i think a few degrees cooler and better assurance is te best way to go regardless of OCing. I've done the P2 300/P2 300 Celeron OCing on many systems. Used either the retail sticky pad or radio shack stuff... no problems there and that was 2.5 years ago. Using the sticky pad (I know this is the worst OC method) a P3 500 FC-PGA up to 775 at core voltage and a P2 300 to 504. Gotten radioshack stuff up to similar on both CPU's fromt eh exact same batch and not the same batch... The key to overclocking used to be getting the best fab plant and batch... Now I don't think it matters so much since I truly believe RAM or another device is going to be the problem first for stability. remember the other components int eh system are design to slightly be run out of spec as a small factor of safety from the manufacturing company whereas CPU's for a certain line are all the same core and just require different volages to hit the higher core speed. So the first ffew CPU's in teh company's line from teh same core are definitely going to have a much higher factor of safety for being run out of spec (ie OCin them). So far as I know none of the radio shack greases have dried out but I don't go cehcking the systems at friend's houses. Ya the tube seems to come with a lot but the AC2 comes with enough to do many systems as well. Remember the key here is to apply as little as possible since both will become thermal resistors after being thicker than a standard 8.5x11 sheet of paper. The AC2 website has the best application method and presentation I've found without much searching on the web. It's free advice and I'd follow it anyday no matter what grease I'm applying. So after this long rant, I'm saying for the extra money I'd buy teh AC2 since its only a few bucks and can be used for building more than one system. I'd say possibly as many as you can stretch teh radio shack tube for as well.

For the topic int h title I'd wished i had gone with the Alpha PAL8045 but when i boght the CPu I was still uncertain of which motherbaord I would end up getting (nforce vs KT266A dilemma). therefore since I didn't know what board I'd be getting i didn't know if the one I'd end up with would have the holes for mounting that huge beast. So I went with thermalright's SK6 and a 60x60x38mm Delta 7k hair dryer fan. ddn't realize until I put the system togter I had just bought a hair dryer. Put a case fan on at 45 degree angle and was happy for a week... then I realized that the hair dryer made the cpu 35C under full load while the case fan did 44C at full load (not overclocked)... decided to overclock and bought a 60x60x25mm fan mounted to a 1.2GHZ old athlon HS/F combo from CompUSA... turned out to be an unreleased for separate purchase YS Tech fan... quieter than most of my case fans... it does 4700 RPM (as opposed to the 4200rpm released fan) and cools the system just as well as the Delta hair dryer one. can't remember what the YS Tech's model number is but its not advertised for sale anywhere but CompUSA in teh $20 combo as far as I can see.... So to conclude... I'm happier with my SK6+Ystech 25mm fan... quieter than some of the case fans and just as much a solution as the Alpha PAL8045... cools the CPU extremely well (at 1.85V my OCed Athlon rns at 37C full load which is way cool enough IMHO) and the REAL bonus is that I don't have to deal with taking out the motherboard and HS/F screws to put in a new CPU! I don't even have to remove HS to remove the CPU fan! hehe... I like it.

 

[QTPie]

I think spending around $50 for HSF is a little too much. Why dont we use that money for a faster CPU?
Overclocking is not a good bargain anymore! (I loved the old time when I oc'ed my AMD K6-2 300 to 380 or Cel 300A to 433.
For $20 you can get a decent Alpha PAL6035 30CFM w/grille at SVC

 

[|TOAST|]

I agree with ya tht OCing a system is not as much a bargain anymore but I do feel that the higher bus speeds make for more significant gaming and hardcore app changes. With that fan you mentioned, you're spending the $50 on a HS/F with taht $20 fan you mentioned and the Alpha PAL8045 is $30... I think spending that much on a HS/F is not such a bad thing.... when was the last timet he PGA sockets changed form factors? back when Intel made up the standard? In teh 486 or Pentium (pre-mmx) days? CPUs are only going to output more heat and more wattage ast time goes on... They are one of the more expensive investments in the system you put together and seeing as I don't think they are going to change the PGA size any time soon (even with teh introduction of the Slot 1 or Slot A you saw PGA being used on teh slotket adapters), I think keeping your CPU at the coolest possible temperature for the next few CPU's you buy is important. Consider it an investment protection plan. The fan should not stop so long as its a quality fan and I think the HS should be fit into the PGA use teh clip method and no other holes need be drilled or formed into teh motherboard until that becomes a standard in size and recognition for all motherboard designs... otherwise you are limiting yourself to using your CPU protection investment (HS/F) on only some of the products it can be attached to. They are more likely to stick with the PGA form factor than to standardize teh hole structure of the Alpha PAL8045.

 

[HurtMe]

Could someone please show me the website to SVC? Thanks.

 

[Strych9]

<< Could someone please show me the website to SVC? Thanks >>

It's linked a couple of times in this thread.

 

[Turbo55]

Hey, the HSF I received from Newegg.com comes in a small box lableled Vantec and it doens't say ALPHA anywhere on the box or the heatsink. Is that a phony? Besides, I didn't even order a fan and this one comes with a fan.

BTW, this heatsink is all gold-color, very different from the black Alpha I see on the web.

Update: I found out the HSF is a Vantec CCK-6035D, and the price on newegg.com is only 21.00 compared to 42 I paid. This is definitely not right.

 

[splice]

Sounds like you ordered the wrong item..or they shipped you the wrong item...what does the invoice say?

 

[Turbo55]

I ordered the correct item, the invoice says Alpha PAL8045.

Anyway, I need start building my system today and only the heatsink is holding me back now. I need an advice. I'm going to be running an XP 1800 on a Abit KG7-RAID Mobo and in a Antech SX830 case and I'm not going to OC. Do you think I can settle on a Vantec CCK-6035D or any other HSF I can get off a retail store like www.jandr.com.

If you guys don't think I can just pick up a Coolmaster at a local store or something like that. LMK. Otherwise, can someone tell me where to get the whole bundle of Alhpa HSF w/ thermal compound for a good price. Thanks.

 

[BigFatCow]

i had my athlon XP 1800+ running on the retail CoolerMaster heatsink, it ran fine until I got the Alpha a couple of days ago.

 

[zzzz]

look in hotdeal forum. One site was selling alpha for $32..

 

[|TOAST|]

Antec cases with all case fans installed [edit] generally[/edit] run cool.

[edit] i find the sx635 to be especially cool...about 10C dgrees on my cpu (athlon 1700+ with extra 0.10V added) and all case fans included[/edit]

 

[Strych9]

<< I found out the HSF is a Vantec CCK-6035D, and the price on newegg.com is only 21.00 compared to 42 I paid. This is definitely not right. >>

Send it back and get what you paid for.

 

[neutralizer]

BTW, how's the Sunon 80mm and Sunon High Speed on the Alpha PAL8045? I currently have a Volcano6 Cu, so I guess I can take around 30-35 dBa. Are the Sunon's too loud?

 

[whitelight]

<< BTW, how's the Sunon 80mm and Sunon High Speed on the Alpha PAL8045? I currently have a Volcano6 Cu, so I guess I can take around 30-35 dBa. Are the Sunon's too loud? >>


i think you have to test it out and try it for yourself because it's different for everyone. i have 4 92mm case fans in my case which are rated at ~30dba (which is quiet), but their airflow make my case loud. so it's not always the noise of the motor you have to consider.