Almost invisable web server?? forget it,no help here

[Bleep]

I want to put up a bulletin board for a small club I belong to on my cable and I do not want to get a domain name for the server. I would just like it to be available with something like (my IP # / bbs) or something like that, similar to a ftp server. Can this be done?? I also do not want to run it on port 80 so port 8000 will probably be one of my choises.
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[n0cmonkey]

Yeah, thats how it works.

 

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<< Yeah, thats how it works >>

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[n0cmonkey]

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<< Yeah, thats how it works >>

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You can easily setup apache on an odd port. You dont need a domain name, but some of the dynamic name services are helpful.

 

[Workin']

Check out a dynamic DNS service like dns2go or dynu (and there are many others) for a free domain name and dynamic DNS with port forwarding. Setting it up is pretty straightforward.

What web server do you plan to use? IIS? Apache?

 

[Bleep]

I am planning on using sambar server. I have looked at Apache and I dont understand hardly anything that I read about it. That is there are about 30 or so downloads on the download page. If I could find someplace where I could download a version compiled for win 98 and the addons that I need for the bbs software I would probably go that route. I know absolutly nothing about servers and I am having a difficult time figuring it all out. I am at the age that new stuff comes into the little grey cells at a slow rate. For instance I am using a linksys router and using DHCP, I just want to assign 1 machine its own IP and use DHCP for the rest, the manual for the router says I cannot do this (mixed routing) but other sources says that I can, very confusing.
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[n0cmonkey]

<< I am planning on using sambar server. I have looked at Apache and I dont understand hardly anything that I read about it. That is there are about 30 or so downloads on the download page. If I could find someplace where I could download a version compiled for win 98 and the addons that I need for the bbs software I would probably go that route. I know absolutly nothing about servers and I am having a difficult time figuring it all out. I am at the age that new stuff comes into the little grey cells at a slow rate. For instance I am using a linksys router and using DHCP, I just want to assign 1 machine its own IP and use DHCP for the rest, the manual for the router says I cannot do this (mixed routing) but other sources says that I can, very confusing.
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Dont bother running it on Win9x. Its a waste of time.

 

[Bleep]

<< Dont bother running it on Win9x >>


Confused even more!! Which IT are you talking about?? Sambar---Apache--Or just a web server???? Why not?? give me some specifics. If none of these will run on win 9x why are they even made compatable with this oS? Have you ever run any of these on 9x?? are you speaking from experience??

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[n0cmonkey]

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<< Dont bother running it on Win9x >>


Confused even more!! Which IT are you talking about?? Sambar---Apache--Or just a web server???? Why not?? give me some specifics. If none of these will run on win 9x why are they even made compatable with this oS? Have you ever run any of these on 9x?? are you speaking from experience??

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Dont bother running a server on 9x. 9x is unstable and a POS in general (for resource intesive things). You may have a lot of problems, even though it will work. You would be better off running it on NT/2k/XP or a UNIX-like system. They are all much more stable than 9x, not to mention can be made reasonably secure.

 

[jhu]

samba is a program that you run on unix-like systems so that windows operating systems (9x, nt, 2k) can easily access the partitions in the unix system.

apache is a program that most sane people run on unix-like systems. it's a webserver. it can also be run on windows nt/2k/xp.

if you plan on running a bbs (which will probably require a webserver [eg apache]) then follow the monkey's advice: use a unix-like os (linux, *bsd, etc) or windows nt/2k/xp. running any servers on windows 9x/me is just asking for trouble.

 

[n0cmonkey]

jhu, sambar appears to do http serving. Im not positive, but my quick glance at their webpage made me think it does

 

[Bleep]

Well I am kind of stuck I guess, I bought XP and paid good money for it but it will not activate, it has already been activated probably by someone using a keygen or a salesperson opening the box loading it an activating it. I can get no help from anyone, not the dealer or from Microsoft. I bought NOTHING and cannot afford another OS. I am a old retired guy and the XP fiasco took a good chunck out of my income.
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[n0cmonkey]

<< Well I am kind of stuck I guess, I bought XP and paid good money for it but it will not activate, it has already been activated probably by someone using a keygen or a salesperson opening the box loading it an activating it. I can get no help from anyone, not the dealer or from Microsoft. I bought NOTHING and cannot afford another OS. I am a old retired guy and the XP fiasco took a good chunck out of my income.
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Return it.

 

[Bleep]

Return it to who???? Microsoft?? HA HA. Staples?? bigger HA HA. Staples reply was "we are not fools, you put this on your computer, activated it now you want to return it? No way old man."

Got any other GOOD advice/
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[n0cmonkey]

<< Return it to who???? Microsoft?? HA HA. Staples?? bigger HA HA. Staples reply was "we are not fools, you put this on your computer, activated it now you want to return it? No way old man."

Got any other GOOD advice/
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Use software that is consumer friendly.

 

[Bleep]

You sir are a JERK elite??I think not

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< You sir are a JERK elite??I think not >>



Please dont call me sir, it makes me feel old.

What I mean is, that the software you purchased (legally) will not work with the hardware you purchased (legally) and the company that sold it to you and the company that produced it are unwilling to help you. Now I have to assume the legality part, but I have no reason not to give you the benefit of the doubt (sorry, I dont know you so I cannot say with 100% positivity that you purchased everything legally). In this situation it would be best to move to a platform that is more consumer friendly. Does that make sense?

 

[jhu]

jhu, sambar appears to do http serving. Im not positive, but my quick glance at their webpage made me think it does
my bad

 

[Workin']

Check out this site for lots of helpful info.

 

[thevillageinn]

I don't understand why the name calling here.

one person asked for assistance, another gave it. Because it didn't meet the expectations of the first person they resorted to name calling?

Here's my take on it...
Win98 is just fine for many people. It is not robust, it tends not to be stable, and it's very insecure.

If you have Win98 and want to give web serving a try...give it a try. Make a good back up before you install the program, and give it a whirl. There are plenty of freeware web server daemons. One of them will do what you want it to do for sure, just keep at it.

As far as the DHCP thing...if you have a linksys and cable, the linksys is what's getting the DHCP from the cable company. Then it forwards requests to whatever internal address you desire. Your internal machines, though set for DHCP, are probably not catching new IPs each time you re-start them, so you don't need to assign a static to an internal machine. (Bleeps 3rd post in this thread mentioned this if anyone is lost)

As for XP...MS won't give you any support? That's cr@ppy! XP home or Pro?

 

[SaigonK]

If your Windows XP does not work Staples will take it back!
They most likely wont give you you're cash back, but at least they WILL give you another copy if you return the one you bought in the box.
I have never had a problem with that type of scenario.....

I do know the store here wont give you any $$ back anymore, but they arent idiots and know that no matter what you buy from them you CAN return it and they WILL accept it.

 

[speed01]

I would say to take your copy of XP back and exchange it for another one. Once XP is installed, install the version of APACHE for windows. Set your router to get it's IP address through DHCP but put your internal machines as static and assign them all IP addresses. Then forward whichever port you decide through the router to the machine you have APACHE running on and that should get you going. You may also want to try using a domain forwarding service with auto IP updating as having to inform people everytime your IP address changes can be quite the pain. This is how I have my web server set up and it hasn't given me any problems in the 3 months it's been this way.