Allofmp3.com

[Taggart]

People travel to Canada for their drugs and pay much less. They also order them through the mail. It's completely legal (I don't know about the mail order part). How would this be a different concept from allofmp3.com? Download mp3's from Russia instead of downloading them from iTunes or whatever. Discuss.

 

[imported_KirbsAw]

I would think the RIAA would have done something by now if they could.

 

[Schadenfroh]

the money does not go to the artists, it is unethical in my book, but since it is in russia, the RIAA probably does not have any say over there, but it could have say for people here.

 

[arod]

well according to their FAQ's the artists get money... through the russian version of the RIAA.

 

[Wahsapa]

the canadian drug companies actually get the money... allofmp3 doesnt give any money to the artist

 

Originally posted by: Wahsapa
the canadian drug companies actually get the money... allofmp3 doesnt give any money to the artist

Um...there ARE no Canadian drug companies. It's just American drug company medicines for sale in Canada.

 

[Wahsapa]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Wahsapa
the canadian drug companies actually get the money... allofmp3 doesnt give any money to the artist

Um...there ARE no Canadian drug companies. It's just American drug company medicines for sale in Canada.

really? well either way the people who make the drugs get in the money, which is my point. because im almost positive allofmp3 doesnt give the artist any money from selling there music.

 

[imported_KirbsAw]

Originally posted by: arod
well according to their FAQ's the artists get money... through the russian version of the RIAA.

Probably only cents, but dont they barely make anything off cd sales anyway because the label takes it all? Most artists i've seen say instead of buying my cd just go to my concert and buy a shirt.

EDIT: unless of course they own their own label.

 

[DigDug]

the money does not go to the artists, it is unethical in my book, but since it is in russia, the RIAA probably does not have any say over there, but it could have say for people here.

What is "unethical" about it? The only thing unethical is a situation where a handful of companies force musicians into unconscionable contracts by virtue of owning the distribution avenues in this country, yet begin to sue their consumers for pirating this musich on the grounds that "it hurts the artists".

 

[Anubis]

buy a CD artist gets 1$ record label gets 14$

buy from allofmp3, artist gets 1$ record co gets nothing

you are just ypassing the middle man artist still get their money

 

[OrganizedChaos]

Originally posted by: Wahsapa
the canadian drug companies actually get the money... allofmp3 doesnt give any money to the artist

got any links showing how much the artist recieves? i was under the impression that since the RIAA(the music labels its comprised of) own the copyrights and thus get the money.

 

[imported_KirbsAw]

Originally posted by: Anubis
buy a CD artist gets 1$ record label gets 14$

buy from allofmp3, artist gets 1$ record co gets nothing

you are just ypassing the middle man artist still get their money

I think a buck a cd is more than the artist even gets from a CD. Don't forget the store is marking up the price to make a profit too.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: KirbsAw

Originally posted by: Anubis
buy a CD artist gets 1$ record label gets 14$

buy from allofmp3, artist gets 1$ record co gets nothing

you are just ypassing the middle man artist still get their money

I think a buck a cd is more than the artist even gets from a CD. Don't forget the store is marking up the price to make a profit too.

i know its just an example but its basically true

 

[jpeyton]

AllOfMP3 has more ethics in their pinkie than the entire body of the US RIAA.

I've been a avid user of their site for a while; clean, high-bitrate music dirt cheap. Gotta love it.

 

[imported_KirbsAw]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
AllOfMP3 has more ethics in their pinkie than the entire body of the US RIAA.

I've been a avid user of their site for a while; clean, high-bitrate music dirt cheap. Gotta love it.

Yeah, i jumped on the bandwagon about a week ago. Its great for getting some stuff from the UK that i'd have to import to get here in the US.

 

[Yzzim]

How do you guys pay for your music? Do you actually trust a russian company with your cc#?

They've had Paypal disabled for a while now.

 

[imported_KirbsAw]

Originally posted by: Yzzim
How do you guys pay for your music? Do you actually trust a russian company with your cc#?

They've had Paypal disabled for a while now.

Cyberplat is a huge banking company, thats who controls the credit card stuff. They are certified by a whole bunch of card companies as legit.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Anubis
buy a CD artist gets 1$ record label gets 14$

buy from allofmp3, artist gets 1$ record co gets nothing

you are just ypassing the middle man artist still get their money

Considering that AllofMP3 charges only pennies per MB, I don't see how anyone is getting a cut - that money would be needed to pay for bandwidth, servers, etc. They aren't even getting a whole dollar out of an average album(<74 min, and only 1MB/min).

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Yzzim
How do you guys pay for your music? Do you actually trust a russian company with your cc#?

They've had Paypal disabled for a while now.

They online CC payments are as secure as any I've seen. I've been using their site for a year and a half, no issues.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Anubis
buy a CD artist gets 1$ record label gets 14$

buy from allofmp3, artist gets 1$ record co gets nothing

you are just ypassing the middle man artist still get their money

Considering that AllofMP3 charges only pennies per MB, I don't see how anyone is getting a cut - that money would be needed to pay for bandwidth, servers, etc. They aren't even getting a whole dollar out of an average album(<74 min, and only 1MB/min).

That's what I was gonna say. On average a song is about 5 cents...

 

[simms]

I've used my CC on their site once. First time it got flagged from a charge in Russia, but after that, no problems.

Simon

 

[dfi]

It's just arbitrage. In canada, drugs are cheaper so if someone in canada sells drugs to the US, they are just making a profit based on their locational advantage. In Russia, cd's are much cheaper (I understand it's around $1-$3 US dollar). Thus they are just making a profit based on their locational advantage.

I'm not an expert on the music industry, but this is what I know of the situation. No matter what, the artist gets screwed. If you buy a cd in the US, the artist gets their 3% or whatever it is now. 3% of a $15 cd is $0.45. If you buy a cd in Russia, ROMS won't pay the music studio any money. But since cd prices are so low in Russia, the artist is only getting some cut of $1-$3 dollars. If a cd sells for $3, the artist would have to get 16% or better from ROMS to beat the record label's 3%. That's only $0.48 per cd. And then, no matter where the cd is sold, the artist still has to pay back the studio for the recording costs. So if you sell 1 million records as an artist, you may or may not make any money after paying back the studio. And I'm probably overstating the money artists get too, because I'm assuming they get a percentage of revenue, which I'm almost certain they don't. Instead, they get a percentage of profits. Then the artist has to go out on tour to start making money. This is why you can be a hot selling artist and be bankrupt.

By comparison, the producer gets 3% as well, but doesn't have to pay the studio anything for recording costs. Even if the band is not super successful, he will still make money.

Thus if I was an artist under a recording contract, I would consider any type of service that generally lowered the price of music anywhere to be an enemy. That would include allofmp3, apple, and walmart. The higher the profit on cd sales, the bigger my slice of the pie.

dfi