Islam can never peacefully coexist along side Western Civilization or with the ideals and freedoms valued by the West.
If everyone took about 1 minute and drew something like this, would they want to kill everyone?
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5150Joker
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All religions are fucking stupid. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism whatever other -ism. People believe in pointless bullshit to find meaning in their empty lives. Well guess what? Our entire existence is pointless. Fuck mohammed, jesus, buddah and all the rest of those lunatics. I bet Mohammed was on some hashish when he saw an angel approach him in a cave while Jesus was probably trying to get laid and get free food by playing the role of prophet/son of god.
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Lar's home was attacked again.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/05/15/international/i071252D74.DTL&tsp=1
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/05/15/international/i071252D74.DTL&tsp=1
from the link
Attempted murder over a fucking cartoon? Hopefully they catch the guilty people and make them disappear.
Attempted murder over a fucking cartoon? Hopefully they catch the guilty people and make them disappear.
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Earlier you just said that you would be ok with blowing up churches, why the change in tune?
That was a sarcastic comment in response to JS80 thinking it's ok to murder people who say "god is great"
There's a big difference between killing people who say "god is great" and killing people who try to kill cartoonists.
Allahu Akbar means .. Akbar was god like, DIP SHIT.Since it literally means "god is great" I think this opens the door to let me blow up churches. I'm in full agreement
Akbar was a Muslim who started his own religion with he being the god.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akbar See the section about din-i-illahi.
Since akbar was very popular and was a great king(He was very tolerant towards other religions, unlike most of the muslim rulers),His religion influenced most of the present day Islam, not the terrorism part and hence came into existence the saying "allah ho akbar".
If I remember it properly, its the first line of there prayer called kalma(Iam not quite sure of the name). I assume that it was a very lengthy prayer and people could only remember the first line.
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Looks like some kindergardener drew it.Doesnt look much of a master piece, Funny though.. Would love to see the animated version of this.Because it's a funny picture, and enrages cave people ...
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Make me a delicious sammich!
Sandwiches are the most over-rated thing in the world. I can't think of a Sandwhich that I would rather have than something else at any given moment.
You couldn't even spend 2 seconds checking google before posting.
http://www.islamicboard.com/arabic/12981-what-does-allahu-akbar-mean.html
WTH are you talking !! I ve spent 17 years in India. You got it all wrong. I trust my knowledge over any site you show me. BELIEVE ME ... ALLAH HO AKBAR means.. AKBAR WAS GOD LIKE... or atleast .. ALLAH WAS AS GREAT AS AKBAR or AKBAR WAS AS GREAT AS ALLAH. If it means that .. WHy do you think they mentioned akbar huh ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India
Strange I don't see Arabic anywhere on that list. You said you went to India and learned Arabic? Was it some random guy teaching you Arabic? Did he actually know Arabic or was he like Dwight from The Office and he just thinks he knows Arabic as well as kung fu?
I'll trust wikipedia over some random store owner you met while high in New Delhi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takbir
The takbīr or tekbir (تَكْبِير
You asked why the word akbar is used. Wiki explains:
Or as Tony the Tiger would say, theeeeey're kaaabiiiir.The form akbar is the elative of the adjective kabīr "great". As used in the takbir it indicates the superlative (best), usually translated as "greatest". The term takbīr (تَكْبِير
It's interesting to note that it has a link at the bottom to a term we hear more often
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallelujah
The phrases hallelujah and alluha akbar seem to have a similar meaning - you thank god for whatever reason. Maybe someone gave you a gift, or maybe you're killing Nazis, hallelujah.Hallelujah, Halleluyah and the Latin form Alleluia are transliterations of the Hebrew word הַלְּלוּיָהּ (Standard Halleluya, Tiberian Halləlûyāh) meaning "Praise (הַלְּלוּ
The entire aftermath. Not very exciting, just a group of hooligans who should have been teargassed about 1min42secs into the movie.
I like how the Swedish girl seems to yell 'This isn't freedom of speech, can't you get that?' - a somewhat ambiguous statement, is she referring to Vilk's slandering of the Prophet, or that the hooligans managed to stop the presentation? No question about how the hooligans interpreted it
http://feber.se/video/art/179441/attacken_p_lars_vilks/
I like how the Swedish girl seems to yell 'This isn't freedom of speech, can't you get that?' - a somewhat ambiguous statement, is she referring to Vilk's slandering of the Prophet, or that the hooligans managed to stop the presentation? No question about how the hooligans interpreted it
http://feber.se/video/art/179441/attacken_p_lars_vilks/
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The entire aftermath. Not very exciting, just a group of hooligans who should have been teargassed about 1min42secs into the movie.
I like how the Swedish girl seems to yell 'This isn't freedom of speech, can't you get that?' - a somewhat ambiguous statement, is she referring to Vilk's slandering of the Prophet, or that the hooligans managed to stop the presentation? No question about how the hooligans interpreted it
http://feber.se/video/art/179441/attacken_p_lars_vilks/
Hadn't seen that version of the video yet. Provides a better understanding of the film shown, at least the first few seconds of it, and the Muslim violence that resulted.
From the first few seconds of the film shown, it seems there was some portrayal of homosexual Muslims following a picture of Muhammad, resulting in the Muslim audience erupting with a physical and verbal attack on the lecturer.
The Muslims were primed for an attack as the session was specifically to promote freedom of speech. Of course, to the Muslims, freedom of speech means being free to shout down and assault anyone who dares to poke at their hypocrisy.
I think anyone who is homosexual or lives an "alternative" lifestyle had better heed this event and many others as a wake up call. There is rampant homosexual activity in the Middle East but open display is usually life threatening and coming out of the closet is all too often a death sentence.
All of you "progressives," "femlibbers," "GLBITGTSers" that support Islamic fascism as one of so many better "alternatives" to Western culture would be the first imprisoned or executed as perverse in the eyes of Muhammad when they take over.
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Sometimes an in your face response to those who are most intolerant is necessary. Too bad that the most "progressive" and most "liberal" amongst us are the most cowardly.
The Poet Versus the Prophet
On standing up to totalitarian Islam
Mark Goldblatt | May 14, 2010
Reason
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I got to know the poet Allen Ginsberg towards the end of his life. Not very well, just a nodding acquaintance, but after he died I attended a memorial in his honor at the City University Graduate School. At that service, his personal assistant related a story about Ginsbergs reaction to the death sentence pronounced on the novelist Salman Rushdie by Ayatollah Khomeini in 1989.
Rushdies crime, youll recall, was writing a provocative, perhaps even blasphemous novel inspired by the life of Muhammad called The Satanic Verses.
Though I might be screwing up a few details, the gist of the story was as follows: Soon after news of the fatwa broke, Ginsberg and his assistant climbed into the back seat of a taxi in Manhattan. After a glance at the cab drivers name, Ginsberg politely inquired if he was a Muslim. When the cabbie replied that he was, Ginsberg asked him what he thought about the death sentence on Rushdie. The cabbie answered that he thought that Rushdies book was disrespectful of Islam, and that the Ayatollah had every right to do what he had done. At this point, according to his assistant, Ginsberg, one of the gentlest men ever to walk the planet, flew into a rage, screaming at the cabbie as he continued to drive, Then I shit on your religion! Do you hear me? I shit on Islam! I shit on Muhammad! Do you hear? I shit on Muhammad! Ginsberg demanded that the cabbie pull over. The cabbie complied, and, without paying the fare, Ginsberg and his assistant climbed out. He was still screaming at the cabbie as the car drove off.
Ive had a couple of weeks now to think about Ginsberg cursing out that cabbie, and cursing out Islam and Muhammad. You see, I live in Manhattan, three blocks from Times Square. As near as I can determine, I was walking with a friend about thirty feet from the car bomb on May 1st right around the time it was supposed to detonate. Except for the technical incompetence of a Muslim dirtbag named Faisal Shahzad, I and my friend would likely be dead now. Note the phrase: Muslim dirtbag. Neither term by itself accounts for the terrorist act he attempted to perpetrate; both terms, however, are equally complicit in it. It might have been a crapshoot of nature and nurture that wrought a specimen like Shahzad, but it was Islam that inspired him, that gave his fecal stain of a life its depth and its justification.
Why is that so difficult to admit?
Let me ask the question another way: Wheres the rage?
Why wont anyone say in public what Ginsberg said in the back seat of that cab? If Islam justifies, or is understood by millions of Muslims to justify, setting off a bomb in Times Square, then I shit on Islam.
There are times for interfaith dialogue, for mutual respect and compassion. This isnt one of them. Shahzads car bomb was parked in front of the offices of Viacom, the parent company of the Comedy Central, which airs the program South Park. Last month, the creators of South Park decided to poke fun at the Prophet Muhammad just as theyd poked fun at Moses and Jesus many times in the past. Death threats followed. Its too early to connect the Times Square bomb plot to the South Park blasphemy, but police have not ruled it out.
If Shahzad was offended by an animated cartoon and decided to defend the Prophets name by killing hundreds of civiliansmothers with their babies in strollers, wide-eyed teenagers in tour groups, husbands and wives out for a night on the townthen Ill say, along with the poet, I shit on Muhammad.
Americans characterize our collective deference towards the feelings of Muslims as political correctness. The phrase may be apt with respect to certain ethnic and religious minorities, but our tip-toeing around Islamic sensibilities is nothing more than plain, old-fashioned cowardice. MSNBC stooge Lawrence ODonnell, for example, repeatedly slandered Mormonism during the 2008 presidential campaign as a sidebar to his creepily obsessive verbal jihad against then-candidate Mitt Romney. But when asked by radio host Hugh Hewitt whether he would insult Muhammad the way hed insulted Joseph Smith, ODonnell replied with rare candor: Oh, well, Im afraid of what the... thats where Im really afraid. I would like to criticize Islam much more than I do publicly, but Im afraid for my life if I do.... Mormons are the nicest people in the world. Theyll never take a shot at me. Those other people, Im not going to say a word about them.
Thats the problem in a nutshell. But its not just ODonnells problem. Its our problem. Americas problem. The Wests problem. We lack the moral courage to walk the walk, to put our individual lives on the line in order to defend the principles of free thought and free expression the very principles that allowed the Judeo-Christian West to leave the Islamic East in the dust, literally and figuratively, three centuries ago.
When Dutch filmmaker Theo Van Gogh was murdered for producing a short movie critical of Islams treatment of women in 2004, where were the public screenings of the film? When Muslims in several countries rioted against pen and ink images of Muhammad printed in a Danish newspaper in 2005, where were the public billboards of those sketches? And when the creators of South Park trotted out the Prophet in a ridiculous bear costume, and received death threats in return, where were the mass-produced tee shirts of that image?
Ill take a size-medium, cotton if possible, and Ill wear it in Times Square.
Since 2001, many Americans have asked how they can contribute in a direct way to the war against totalitarian Islam. Now we have an answer. If its legal, and likely to offend the radicals, just do it. That seems straightforward enough. But how many of us will have the nerve to stand up to a million or so Muslim dirtbags, and to scores of millions, perhaps hundreds of millions, of their fellow travelers and psychic enablers, and say in unison, You want to kill the Enlightenment, youre going to have to come through me.
Mark Goldblatts new novel, Sloth, has nothing to do with Islam, but he is pleased to announce that the cover image of a cockroach is in fact Muhammad. You can tell because his antennae form the letter M.
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The Parable of the Ten Minas
11-While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once.
12-He said: "A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return.
13-So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a]'Put this money to work,' he said, 'until I come back.'
14-"But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, 'We don't want this man to be our king.'
15-"He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.
16-"The first one came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned ten more.'
17-" 'Well done, my good servant!' his master replied. 'Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.'
18-"The second came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned five more.'
19-"His master answered, 'You take charge of five cities.'
20-"Then another servant came and said, 'Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth.
21-I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.'
22-"His master replied, 'I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow?
23-Why then didn't you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?'
24-"Then he said to those standing by, 'Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.'
25-" 'Sir,' they said, 'he already has ten!'
26-"He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away.
27-But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over thembring them here and kill them in front of me."
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