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Doboji

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I just read this article and it occured to me what's been bothering me most about the liberal response to the war in Iraq.

Having grown up in an extremely liberal family, one of the things I enjoyed most about being liberal, was the determination to make a difference in the world. It was such a badge of honor to say you had travelled to a bizaare country in africa to nurture poor children. These kind of actions are truly good, couragous and valiant. Why has this not been transported to Iraq... why are there not tens of thousands of american do-gooders, in Iraq, feeding children, and building schools?... Where are these efforts?... Why the hypocracy?

Isnt it time to recognize a real problem.. truly requiring our aid?... and isn't it time we got involved to truly make a difference instead of just screaming Bush bloody murder?

-Max
 
Originally posted by: Doboji
I just read this article and it occured to me what's been bothering me most about the liberal response to the war in Iraq.

Having grown up in an extremely liberal family, one of the things I enjoyed most about being liberal, was the determination to make a difference in the world. It was such a badge of honor to say you had travelled to a bizaare country in africa to nurture poor children. These kind of actions are truly good, couragous and valiant. Why has this not been transported to Iraq... why are there not tens of thousands of american do-gooders, in Iraq, feeding children, and building schools?... Where are these efforts?... Why the hypocracy?

Isnt it time to recognize a real problem.. truly requiring our aid?... and isn't it time we got involved to truly make a difference instead of just screaming Bush bloody murder?

-Max
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Because the "hippies" actually got off their a$$ to help people rather than lobbying the government to take our money and help people for us.
 
No hypocrisy. People are going to Irag to help. The first visitors are helping to setup the infrastructure. Nick Berg is an example of this, although he was being paid. Iraq is dangerous and Americans that go there are being targeted for being American. They really hate us even though we are trying to help. More people go to Africa because the Africans actually like us somewhat.
 
there are plenty of problems in America that need fixing first.
You dont have to go to Iraq or Africa to make a difference.

I dont think its the liberals who have adopted the mantra of 'helping the iraqi people'

the people that support this war have tried to twist it into a 'humanitarian, freedom fighting, doesnt Iraq deserve the same freedoms we enjoy?' mission
only after it was made clear that this administration lied, mind you.
 
Beats me, I'm not a Liberal and I couldn't give a good God Damn about the Iraqi's, especially after I saw them celebrating in the street after 9/11. The only reason I initially supported Dub's excellent adventure in Iraq was because I foolishly believed him and his nefarious network of Neocons when they BS'd us about how Iraq posed such a great threat to the USA. If he had tried to sell it about liberating the Iraqi's I would never have supported it!
 
Originally posted by: M0NEYSH0T
Does Iraq have trees? All I ever see is sand.
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and the oil

Edit:
oh yeah, we bomb the country to hell and have to spend billions of dollars that your children and grandchildren are going to be paying with interest to pay off.
Liberals at the very least want to tax and spend.
Republicans want to borrow and spend.
 
Are you in Iraq helping nurture poor children? Right now? Otherwise sit down and stfu.

There wouldn't be a humanitarian crisis if we didn't bomb their country to sh!t, so I'm anti-war and I will keep screaming "Bush bloody murder". Secondly, its fvcking dangerous there, aid workers are taken hostage left and right or just plain murdered. It's obvious they don't want us there. So why go?
 
Why has this not been transported to Iraq... why are there not tens of thousands of american do-gooders, in Iraq, feeding children, and building schools?... Where are these efforts?... Why the hypocracy?
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Because people who do that aren't being beheaded left, right, and center. Iraq is not safe (at all).
 
especially after I saw them celebrating in the street after 9/11

Never happened - That was a clip that FOX ran to give a biased impression,
and polarize the Gulible American Sheep. Why did FOX choose to show IRAQI's ?
They had done the same thing with the Palestinians, create a false impression.

There in the daylight all these people jumping up and down celebrating.
Only one problem - it was 10 hours later in the day there timewise when it first hit
and by the time we had figured out what was happening even later in the day.
By the time they could have learned about it, it would have been well after dark.

So few of the people there have the comforts of American civilization like TV's, Cadilacs'
and Buicks - very few of the people in those countries even knew it had happened until
several days had passed.
 
Because people who do that aren't being beheaded left, right, and center. Iraq is not safe (at all).
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C'mon more aid workers get kidnapped in South America than get taken in Iraq, we just never hear about it anymore.... This doesnt explain the phenomenon.... I think Leberals just arent interested in helping unless it fits within their political agenda.

Are you in Iraq helping nurture poor children? Right now? Otherwise sit down and stfu.
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Oh whatever man... thats horseshzt and you know it... I dont have to nurture children to have an opinion.... and FYI I am doing my part... are you?

-Max
 
CNN, not FoxNews, initially broadcast the footage.

From Snopes

A Reuters camera crew shot the footage. The time difference at that time of the year is 7 hours.
 
O.K. 7 hours To Jerusalem, and the dance team was Palestinians.

Still 10 hours to Iraq, and they weren't Iraqi's Lord of the Dance either.
 
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Are you in Iraq helping nurture poor children? Right now? Otherwise sit down and stfu.

There wouldn't be a humanitarian crisis if we didn't bomb their country to sh!t, so I'm anti-war and I will keep screaming "Bush bloody murder". Secondly, its fvcking dangerous there, aid workers are taken hostage left and right or just plain murdered. It's obvious they don't want us there. So why go?
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Your right, your buddy Gore would have united all of Europe and the rest of the world in a joint effort to take down Saddam (hard too type from the laughter). He also would have waited to take out the Taliban. See a commonality here? The word, "wait". I don't want to wait for these nut jobs to come here bombing our playgrounds. Got it? So YOU move on.

That's the difference between you and me.
 
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
especially after I saw them celebrating in the street after 9/11

Never happened - That was a clip that FOX ran to give a biased impression,
and polarize the Gulible American Sheep. Why did FOX choose to show IRAQI's ?
They had done the same thing with the Palestinians, create a false impression.

There in the daylight all these people jumping up and down celebrating.
Only one problem - it was 10 hours later in the day there timewise when it first hit
and by the time we had figured out what was happening even later in the day.
By the time they could have learned about it, it would have been well after dark.

So few of the people there have the comforts of American civilization like TV's, Cadilacs'
and Buicks - very few of the people in those countries even knew it had happened until
several days had passed.
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Yeah, I guess we didnt go to the moon either. You are a true idiot. Yet another shining star on the liberal team.
 
Originally posted by: MrGrim257
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
especially after I saw them celebrating in the street after 9/11

Never happened - That was a clip that FOX ran to give a biased impression,
and polarize the Gulible American Sheep. Why did FOX choose to show IRAQI's ?
They had done the same thing with the Palestinians, create a false impression.

There in the daylight all these people jumping up and down celebrating.
Only one problem - it was 10 hours later in the day there timewise when it first hit
and by the time we had figured out what was happening even later in the day.
By the time they could have learned about it, it would have been well after dark.

So few of the people there have the comforts of American civilization like TV's, Cadilacs'
and Buicks - very few of the people in those countries even knew it had happened until
several days had passed.
Click to expand...

Yeah, I guess we didnt go to the moon either. You are a true idiot. Yet another shining star on the liberal team.
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MODS - Can you get this idiot out of here ? We don't need another,
this village has enough to go around.
 
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: MrGrim257
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
especially after I saw them celebrating in the street after 9/11

Never happened - That was a clip that FOX ran to give a biased impression,
and polarize the Gulible American Sheep. Why did FOX choose to show IRAQI's ?
They had done the same thing with the Palestinians, create a false impression.

There in the daylight all these people jumping up and down celebrating.
Only one problem - it was 10 hours later in the day there timewise when it first hit
and by the time we had figured out what was happening even later in the day.
By the time they could have learned about it, it would have been well after dark.

So few of the people there have the comforts of American civilization like TV's, Cadilacs'
and Buicks - very few of the people in those countries even knew it had happened until
several days had passed.
Click to expand...

Yeah, I guess we didnt go to the moon either. You are a true idiot. Yet another shining star on the liberal team.
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MODS - Can you get this idiot out of here ? We don't need another another,
this village has enough to go around.
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I thought you were suggesting that the scene of Iraqis tearing down the statue was a fake. I apologize CaptnKirk.
 
While I feel strongly that we need to pay attention to enviornmental issues in this age of industrial activity, I would't consider myself a tree hugger. There are also many "liberal" ideas that I support, but it has been many years since I've felt compelled to try to "make a difference". I have taken a live and let live attitude for a long time. So no, I wouldn't have considered going over there with books and band-aids, but I wouldn't have gone with bombs and tanks either.
 
Originally posted by: Doboji
I just read this article and it occured to me what's been bothering me most about the liberal response to the war in Iraq.

Having grown up in an extremely liberal family, one of the things I enjoyed most about being liberal, was the determination to make a difference in the world. It was such a badge of honor to say you had travelled to a bizaare country in africa to nurture poor children. These kind of actions are truly good, couragous and valiant. Why has this not been transported to Iraq... why are there not tens of thousands of american do-gooders, in Iraq, feeding children, and building schools?... Where are these efforts?... Why the hypocracy?

Isnt it time to recognize a real problem.. truly requiring our aid?... and isn't it time we got involved to truly make a difference instead of just screaming Bush bloody murder?

-Max
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i hope you didn't drink too much of whatever you were drinking when you typed that...

the only reason to go to Africa to feed poor starving children would be to either use up your air miles or to be able to show-off about having been there.... you live in a country full of disadvantaged inner-city neighbourhoods - what's wrong with helping out in the ghettos?? not exciting enough??

Iraq does not need people going in to help... it is a rich country that was pumping out 3 million barrels of oil day before the war (thats about 90 million greenbacks flowing out of the ground every morning). a lot fo that was stolen by Saddam (and of course your government took a lot of that from him by selling him weapons), millions was filched by ppl running the oil for food program, and billions is being spent on so called reconstruction - most of which ends up with Amertican companies....

fat lot of good you are going to do flying in there and feeding children...???
 
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

So few of the people there have the comforts of American civilization like TV's, Cadilacs'
and Buicks - very few of the people in those countries even knew it had happened until
several days had passed.
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you've obviously never been in that part of the world.... :disgust:
 
Originally posted by: Doboji
I just read this article and it occured to me what's been bothering me most about the liberal response to the war in Iraq.

Having grown up in an extremely liberal family, one of the things I enjoyed most about being liberal, was the determination to make a difference in the world. It was such a badge of honor to say you had travelled to a bizaare country in africa to nurture poor children. These kind of actions are truly good, couragous and valiant. Why has this not been transported to Iraq... why are there not tens of thousands of american do-gooders, in Iraq, feeding children, and building schools?... Where are these efforts?... Why the hypocracy?

Isnt it time to recognize a real problem.. truly requiring our aid?... and isn't it time we got involved to truly make a difference instead of just screaming Bush bloody murder?

-Max
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How is this a liberal vs conservative issue?

The US, based on fraudulent claims, invades Iraq, killings thousands of citizens, throws the country into economic and security chaos.

Hasn't the US helped the Iraqis enough?
 
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
How is this a liberal vs conservative issue?

The US, based on fraudulent claims, invades Iraq, killings thousands of citizens, throws the country into economic and security chaos.

Hasn't the US helped the Iraqis enough?
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LOL.... everything here boils down to a Lib vs. Con issue :disgust:

I think when people haven't got the foggiest notion of what they are talking about, they randomly throw in one ... and within about a minute a dozen ppl will respond with the other

I've never figured out what either one is, either......... will some genius enlighten me???
 
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
How is this a liberal vs conservative issue?

The US, based on fraudulent claims, invades Iraq, killings thousands of citizens, throws the country into economic and security chaos.

Hasn't the US helped the Iraqis enough?
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LOL.... everything here boils down to a Lib vs. Con issue :disgust:

I think when people haven't got the foggiest notion of what they are talking about, they randomly throw in one ... and within about a minute a dozen ppl will respond with the other

I've never figured out what either one is, either......... will some genius enlighten me???
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Its easier for simple minds to convert every complex situation into an us vs. them situation. Maybe we'll get a reply to this that someone stands up for what is right, and isn't wishy washy. Most likely they just can't wrap their mind around something.

Zephyr
 
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