All you Dreamweaver vs. FrontPage ppl....

OdiN

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I figured I would try Dreamweaver.

I was trying to get some images aligned in tables for a webpage and it would not do it. Booted up FrontPage and it did exactly what I wanted it to do.

The problem was apparently the doctype or something that dreamweaver added to the beginning of the file. Why that would make any difference as to the basic simple formatting of a table I don't know, but it did. And I thought FrontPage was supposed to be the one adding crap that wasn't necessary.

 

AgaBoogaBoo

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I don't like the newest version of Dreamweaver, it's getting a little too bloated IMO. They need to keep things simple. That being said, I still prefer Dreamweaver since the mid to late 90's till now but haven't tried Frontpage recently at all, which version are you using?
 

OdiN

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I'm using FrontPage 2002

But I do lots of code manipulation by hand. I like FP because I can quickly flesh out a table and then just modify the code. It's easy to add text and stuff in.

 

BeauJangles

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I only use an old version of Dreamweaver these days to do table stuff... it is a lot faster for me to build the tables visually than to code them by hand. Other than that I just use Textpad.
 

fire400

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FP XP and 2003 versions are just as standard as Microsoft will have to offer for their mainstreamers. Personally, more expensive stuff would be ideal for the business professionals.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: 777php
what wrong with using divs and css?

What's wrong with using tables?

I don't know if divs/css will work.

I've always used tables and know how to use them to do what I want.

I've done some looking into CSS but I'm not sure how it will accomplish what I need.

Basically I have tables that make a page look like this (If this will even show up right I dunno):


----------------------------------------------------
|....................................................................|
|---------------------------------------------------|
|...............|....................................................|
|------------|---------------------------------------|
|...............|...................................................|.|
|...............|...................................................|.|
|...............|...................................................|.|
|...............|...................................................|.|
|...............|...................................................|.|
|...............|...................................................|.|
|...............|...................................................|.|
|...............|...................................................|.|
|...............|...................................................|.|
|...............|...................................................|.|
|------------|----------------------------------------|
|...............|......................................................|
|------------|----------------------------------------|

All of the ........ = blank space
| or - = table borders.

I hope you can see what I talk about.

The top area is a header graphic.

The second table is 2 colums. The left portion is the remainder of the header graphic (so it must line up exactly) and the right column are 5 navigation graphics.

The Middle area is 3 colums. The left column for additional navigation/info, the middle colum is for all of the text/images/etc. The right column is a small width background in the table's cell to complete the interface design.

The lower area is 2 colums. The left colum is a graphic and the right column is the footer.

I don't know how to do that in CSS. If you can point me to a place where I can learn, I'd be interested of course.

Right now it's just tables using backgrounds and images to make an interface. It works....so why not use it?
 

bleuiko

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not caught up on divs and css... but i don't think you can layout graphics properly with those can you? i understand the sample above and I do a lot of those as well..

dreamweaver for me... mx is not too bad
 

OdiN

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Yeah I don't know that CSS is beneficial in doing that. If it can be done then it would be nice to learn.

I'm using some basic CSS to affect the paragraph properties and placement of images inside my main area (floating the image so text goes around it, etc.)