All-in-one survival knives

JasonCoder

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Looks decent but that kit it comes with looks hokey to me. Not heard of 425 steel but it appears to be durable. I've had my eye on the Schrade SCHF9... it's such a good seller Amazon has trouble keeping it in stock. Also had my eye on the SOG seal team elite.
 

shortylickens

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That bad eh?

No, just mediocre.
A skeletonized full-tang is actually somewhat useful, but everything else was meh.

The included flashlight is shit, unlocking the blade from the sheath and opening up the handle is a pain, opening the big compartment for your survival kit is really difficult, it doesnt close easily, the blade is completely exposed to the elements (but does lock in place securely). Nylon straps are thin and wont stand up to abuse.

Actually they only did one thing correctly and its not enough to pull everything else up and make it usable.
 

tboo

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I remember back in the day, when Rambo first came out, I wanted one of these knives so badly. Ended up getting a cheap Chinese knock-off.
 

lxskllr

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"Survival knives" are bullshit. A knife is a knife. Trying to shoehorn bullshit to it will detract from its knifeness, and the bullshit is substandard 100% of the time. Get a Ka-bar. To practice for your new found manliness, pick up a tin of Cope, something with a plastic tin. Once you've used all the tobacco, you can fill the tin with something useful that'll actually help you survive.
 

Murloc

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A knife is a knife.
I agree with this, sets and kits are just a bunch of marketing stuff, anything besides the main product is usually cheap.
I'd get a knife and a flashlight separately.
 

kage69

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All-in-ones are lame. Cold Steel Bush Ranger is still my favorite "out in the bush" knife.

Knives with gadgets and accessories built into them have never interested me, and always seem to be pretty shitty quality. I'd rather have a real knife and a Leatherman. Important misc like matches, bug stuff, aluminum foil, bandages, etc I keep packed into a small lockable box about the size of a drinking flask.

You want something with a thick blade so you can use it to pry and to split wood then tap the spine with another piece wood, so I'd avoid cheap stainless.

Check out the SRK from Cold Steel, or the Bushman if you want something to live in your car for years. Bushman is a great survival tool. You accessory fans can load the hollow handle up with goodies, and it can also be mounted on the end of a walking stick or pole. Insta-spear!
 

shortylickens

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I remember back in the day, when Rambo first came out, I wanted one of these knives so badly. Ended up getting a cheap Chinese knock-off.

Thats what most people got. The one he used in the movie was a custom one-of-a-kind creation.

Later on a handful of guys did make some decent hollow handled blade but those are few and far between.
They also cost about 500 bucks.
 

HumblePie

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For good but inexpensive "survival" that just work, I would recommend what others have. Schrade schf9, most of the cold steel line, and most of the kabar line. Most of the good ones are $60 or less. The cold steel bushman is like $25 and hard to beat for the price. Really the only reason to have a big knife is for light chopping duty. Or a small melee weapon. Better off with a hatchet for chopping and a smaller knife for cutting/slicing open things. Rambo style fighting knives are more novelty than actual useful function. True that any blade is better than no blade in a wilderness survival situation, but there are certainly better choices than a Rambo/Howie knife.
 

lxskllr

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Really the only reason to have a big knife is for light chopping duty. Or a small melee weapon. Better off with a hatchet for chopping and a smaller knife for cutting/slicing open things.

A Woodmans Pal makes a good bush blade. Versatile, and fairly light/compact. I prefer a longer machete for work, but for camping and back country, I appreciate the compact size.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...3Awoodmans+pal
 

HumblePie

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Here is how I look at it for "survival" blades. If you are out camping or in the wilderness trying to live on your own for a little bit, you aren't going to need to be chopping trees. So the big hatchets aren't going to do you any good. You may need something to clear bush with, remove branches, or split some firewood. A decent hand held hatchet works better in this case than any "survival" knife.

The only reason to need a knife style blade in this scenario is to cut smaller things. Like rope. You may also need to skin and clean game. Again, you don't need anything bigger than a nice 4-5" fixed blade knife. Anything bigger is going to be too unwieldy. Anything smaller and the job may take a bit longer.

The next reason to have a knife would be a small utensil knife. Mainly for eating, prepping meals, and perhaps passing time with widdling. A smaller fixed blade or even a decent folder fits this bill. Either one can be used to attach to the end of a stick to make an impromptu spear for fishing purposes. A spear like that wouldn't be all that useful in a defensive scenario. Rather have a .22lr pistol for that in the wilderness. Unless you know you are in bear country, then you might want something bigger.

However, some people like a slightly bigger "chopping" style knife instead of a hatchet. Kukri's work for this decently enough. Again, while they work, I don't think they are the most optimal of setups. A good hand hatchet will do the work a kukri can do for chopping in a faster time frame and easier. And smaller jobs that don't require chopping are better served with a smaller blade. The only reason to get that "in between" big bladed knife is because you are compromising for some reason. Meaning hatchet, small-medium fixed blade knife, and another small knife is just too much to take.
 

kage69

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A Woodmans Pal makes a good bush blade. Versatile, and fairly light/compact. I prefer a longer machete for work, but for camping and back country, I appreciate the compact size.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...3Awoodmans+pal


I carry a hawk, but I've always marveled at the Woodman's Pal since I found a really old specimen dating back to 1942. It had a manual in it where there were directions on how to use it against a katana wielding Japanese officer. Heh.
 

lxskllr

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Good review shorty. You have a good speaking voice, and you go over the features without a ton of stumbles like you usually hear on Youtube.
 

lxskllr

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I said UMM about 20 times.

I ignore that kind of stuff. I'm not expecting professional, but I like to hear ideas conveyed clearly. I've seen some real crap online. Either reviews that say nothing, or a bunch of stumbling and scattered thought. You described the knife clearly, fairly concisely, and without a bunch of nonsense. You can't ask for much more from an amateur review :^)