all horn players...

[Semidevil]

so I was wondering....for all the brass players, is it possible to play all the notes w/in the instruments range in only 1 position? i.e, playing all notes in first position in trombone, or playing all note with no valve pushed down.

seeing that a lot of notes are controlled by the chops, is it possible to accomplish this feat?

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

no

 

[JetBlack69]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
no

 

[Crusty]

I'm sure someone can do it... but I doubt your average player could. It takes a lot of strength on your lips to force them to buzz unaturely.

I would consider myself a decent player, but I could never really go more then 4-5 half steps away from a note using the same valve combinations. When I did do this, it never sounds good either...

why would you want to anyways?

 

[SynthDude2001]

All the notes? No.... (I used to play French Horn, for what it's worth)

 

[villageidiot111]

Allen Vizzutti can.

In fact, this is actually good for your chops, if you do it right. Start on a concert F, go down a half step with the actual fingering, then go back up. Repeat, except do it all with your chops. Supposedly it helps you develop a strong center of pitch. Once you master the half steps, move on to whole steps and beyond.

 

[QuitBanningMe]

No
<-trombone

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Nope.

<-- Trumpet

 

[Rock Hydra]

No. I don't think so.
<-- Trumpet.

 

[ChooChooChooseMe]

No

 

[Mo0o]

no

 

[Slvrtg277]

Originally posted by: villageidiot111
Allen Vizzutti can.

In fact, this is actually good for your chops, if you do it right. Start on a concert F, go down a half step with the actual fingering, then go back up. Repeat, except do it all with your chops. Supposedly it helps you develop a strong center of pitch. Once you master the half steps, move on to whole steps and beyond.

Shens. I played trumpet for 11 years and you cannot play every note without using the valves. If you could, why would the valves be there?

 

[Demo24]

not everynote, I have heard of many real good brass players able to play whole songs with just a mouthpiece though

 

[villageidiot111]

Originally posted by: Slvrtg277

Originally posted by: villageidiot111
Allen Vizzutti can.

In fact, this is actually good for your chops, if you do it right. Start on a concert F, go down a half step with the actual fingering, then go back up. Repeat, except do it all with your chops. Supposedly it helps you develop a strong center of pitch. Once you master the half steps, move on to whole steps and beyond.

Shens. I played trumpet for 11 years and you cannot play every note without using the valves. If you could, why would the valves be there?

I can't necessarily do it, but Vizzutti can. I not saying he can do it so it sounds as good as the valves, but he does it better than anyone I have ever heard.

 

[seanws]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
no

its not just the way you use your lips that produces the desired note, but the way the air flows through the instrument

 

[JoeKing]

well with the use of the valve slides on a trumpet, maybe. But it wouldn't sound good.

 

[villageidiot111]

Originally posted by: JoeKing
well with the use of the valve slides on a trumpet, maybe. But it wouldn't sound good.

How could you use the valve slides without using the valves?

 

[JoeKing]

Originally posted by: villageidiot111

Originally posted by: JoeKing
well with the use of the valve slides on a trumpet, maybe. But it wouldn't sound good.

How could you use the valve slides without using the valves?

with your pinky/ring finger and thumb?

 

[Slvrtg277]

Originally posted by: villageidiot111

Originally posted by: JoeKing
well with the use of the valve slides on a trumpet, maybe. But it wouldn't sound good.

How could you use the valve slides without using the valves?

Meaning without actually depressing the valves. Obviously air is going to flow through the valves to get out of the horn.

The valve slides control pitch and tone. Basically, if you adjusted the valve slides to the point that the horn was completely out of tune, it would allow you to reach a few more notes without depressing the buttons....you'd just have to continuously adjust the slides.

 

[JoeKing]

villageidiot111 makes a good point below

 

[villageidiot111]

Originally posted by: Slvrtg277

Originally posted by: villageidiot111

Originally posted by: JoeKing
well with the use of the valve slides on a trumpet, maybe. But it wouldn't sound good.

How could you use the valve slides without using the valves?

Meaning without actually depressing the valves. Obviously air is going to flow through the valves to get out of the horn.

The valve slides control pitch and tone. Basically, if you adjusted the valve slides to the point that the horn was completely out of tune, it would allow you to reach a few more notes without depressing the buttons....you'd just have to continuously adjust the slides.

Um, air doesnt actually move through the valve slides unless the valve is pressed down, thus defeating the purpose of not using the valves. The only slide that would have any affect would be the tuning slide.