All Evil is on the Left

[Socio]

This is a real good article that goes into some historical detail about the true Left and the ?mythical? far right in the US.

With the relentless, far more often unfounded than not Right bashing going on this might offer some insight as to what it really means to be Left and what it really means to be Right, which just might wake some people up around here;

All Evil is on the Left

Some snipits;

When men like Senator McCain, who I give the benefit of doubt in his moral seriousness, seeks a moderate position, when anyone seeks the ?middle ground? in political debate, it is clear that the old bogeyman of evil on the ?Far Right? and evil on the ?Far Left? has enthralled them.

Let us be clear at the outset: there is no ?Far Right? at all. Those handful of nutty and dangerous separatist groups have no connection with what are called conservatives at all. They resemble, in fact, much more the very real Far Left. Recall that Jim Jones, the suicide-murderer minister, was a radical Leftist who supported ?social justice? and Democrat politics before he convinced his Jonestown thralls to drink poison Kool-Aid.

In politics, there is some goodness on what we call the Left; there is some goodness on what we call the Right; but there is no evil on the Right: all evil is on the Left. Before delving into the historical basis for this position, consider today what the Right and Left are supposed to represent. The Right is accused, essentially, of doing little or nothing about our social and economic problems. Those on the mythical Right are not accused of trying to impose enslavement on others ? Leftism, and Marxism, simply assume that in the absence of government such enslavement will occur in free markets. The position of the mythical Right represents the first rule of medicine: First, do no harm.

Racism was opposed in America by the Republican Party, which was expressly founded upon the rights of blacks not only to freedom but to equality.

Who, then, supported racism in America? The Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist wing of the Democrat Party in the post-bellum South. Their outrages were not committed so much against blacks as against Republicans, both black and white.

Reading through this article unless you are in complete denial it is not hard to put into perspective that there really is no "Far Right", the Right are not "monsters?, and the Left historically have serious issues.

Something perhaps for those on the Left to remember the next time you want to bash the Right

 

[Deeko]

haha this has to be the biggest flamebait thread I've ever seen.

 

[yllus]

You've outdone yourself, Socio. I had no idea that a person could be so utterly blind to reality.

 

[ayabe]

Epic fail.

It's not even worth the time.

 

[cliftonite]

I was running low on toilet paper, I may just print this and use it instead.

 

[Dari]

There are so many errors in that article it's hard to know where to begin. Here's one: The Democratic Party was the conservative party in the 19th century up until the 1940s, iirc.

 

[Arkaign]

LOLZOCOPTER!!!

 

[Robor]

OP you are a clueless idiot.

 

[StageLeft]

The title makes it hard to take seriously, but I did click the link and after three paragraphs the author gave no meaningful intent as to what the hell he was trying to say so instead of wasting anymore time, I just posted this instead.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: Socio
This is a real good article that goes into some historical detail about the true Left and the ?mythical? far right in the US.

With the relentless, far more often unfounded than not Right bashing going on this might offer some insight as to what it really means to be Left and what it really means to be Right, which just might wake some people up around here;

All Evil is on the Left

Some snipits;

When men like Senator McCain, who I give the benefit of doubt in his moral seriousness, seeks a moderate position, when anyone seeks the ?middle ground? in political debate, it is clear that the old bogeyman of evil on the ?Far Right? and evil on the ?Far Left? has enthralled them.

Let us be clear at the outset: there is no ?Far Right? at all. Those handful of nutty and dangerous separatist groups have no connection with what are called conservatives at all. They resemble, in fact, much more the very real Far Left. Recall that Jim Jones, the suicide-murderer minister, was a radical Leftist who supported ?social justice? and Democrat politics before he convinced his Jonestown thralls to drink poison Kool-Aid.

In politics, there is some goodness on what we call the Left; there is some goodness on what we call the Right; but there is no evil on the Right: all evil is on the Left. Before delving into the historical basis for this position, consider today what the Right and Left are supposed to represent. The Right is accused, essentially, of doing little or nothing about our social and economic problems. Those on the mythical Right are not accused of trying to impose enslavement on others ? Leftism, and Marxism, simply assume that in the absence of government such enslavement will occur in free markets. The position of the mythical Right represents the first rule of medicine: First, do no harm.

Racism was opposed in America by the Republican Party, which was expressly founded upon the rights of blacks not only to freedom but to equality.

Who, then, supported racism in America? The Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist wing of the Democrat Party in the post-bellum South. Their outrages were not committed so much against blacks as against Republicans, both black and white.

Reading through this article unless you are in complete denial it is not hard to put into perspective that there really is no "Far Right", the Right are not "monsters?, and the Left historically have serious issues.

Something perhaps for those on the Left to remember the next time you want to bash the Right

I don't agree with all of what the author said, but she makes some points worth thinking about. She's got some balls though. Reminds me of what Evan Sayet said: "I think most of us agree that the democrats are wrong on just about every issue. Well I'm here to propose to you it's not just about every issue. It's quite literally every issue. And it's not just wrong, it's as wrong as wrong can be. It's 180 degrees from right. It is diametrically opposed to that which is good, right, and successful."

Not sure that I agree with that either. But I can't help but feel a bit relieved that some thinkers remain on the right.

 

[RightIsWrong]

I was about to click the link then I read the first snippet the OP pasted...

How is McCain telling gays that they can't marry and telling women that they can't have an abortion seeking a moderate position?

I'll trust everyone else's response and assume that it is a looney and completely devoid of reason, fact and logic without clicking.

 

[CitizenKain]

"Who, then, supported racism in America? The Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist wing of the Democrat Party in the post-bellum South. Their outrages were not committed so much against blacks as against Republicans, both black and white. "

Remember how all those democrats immediately became republicans after the civil rights act was implemented?

 

[sandorski]

Wow, what BS. Makes the "Fascist = Left" false argument seem reasonable, but fails just the same.

 

[Moonbeam]

Holy crap, the first sentence is by an editor and it doesn't even make any sense? Who I give? WTF, Who I give? "in his moral seriousness"? Are you kidding me? Are you sure some punk didn't hack the site?

When you open your argument with a can of incoherent beens right off I start wondering who ate all the pork. I figure somebody ought to first be able to talk before they tell me how to think.

Let me know if the editor edits this and I'll maybe get past the first sentence.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Pure garbage...I think it's time to reassess things Socio.

 

[Arkaign]

^^^ Ummm, Atreus, are you still sane? You quote some nonsensical garbage, and then say that you're relieved some 'thinkers' remain on the right? I can't connect that at all. I'm paleo-conservative, which doesn't seem to jibe well with the 21st century supergovernment right-wing, but I can't point to either the leftist or rightist political ideologies as evil or good. Ultimately, individuals are responsible for their own behavior, and their morality is not based upon their political beliefs, rather it is based upon personal conviction and the choices that they make.

I could make just as nonsensical an argument by pointing out how the right wing was against FDR and his war plans against the Fascists in Europe, and how many of them were linked with right-wing industrialists and financiers who had heavy dealings with Nazi Germany. Even Ford was found guilty of 'trading with the enemy' by the US Government. He earlier received Hitler's most prestigious civilian honor, The Order of the Golden Eagle.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler....ar_Connection_TWE.html

That's just one route of nonsense we could take, and it goes both ways.

It's irrefutably stupid and beyond comprehension to try to equate morality with right vs. left. There are good people on both sides, and bad people on both sides.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see through the partisan cloud of bullcrap from the OP.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: Socio
Reading through this article unless you are in complete denial it is not hard to put into perspective that there really is no "Far Right", the Right are not "monsters?, and the Left historically have serious issues.

Something perhaps for those on the Left to remember the next time you want to bash the Right

there really is no far right???

wtf dude.

there are far ends of BOTH sides of the spectrum.

get your head out your butt, its comments and positions like yours that gives the left and everyone else in between the right to "bash the right" as much and as hard as you "far righties" deserve.

 

[bamacre]

Looking at other articles and op-eds on that website, I'm not surprised by the OP. In one article, they called Ron Paul a left-winger.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Looking at other articles and op-eds on that website, I'm not surprised by the OP. In one article, they called Ron Paul a left-winger.

I hate to refer to someone's 'level of ignorance' but a fair number of uniformed right-wing loons consider libertarians as leftists. Goes to show they are all about the personal attack as opposed to the substance of the debate.

Take away the anger, personal attacks, misdirection and obfuscation of the right and all you are left with is an empty suit which panders to the lowest common denominator - fear.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: bamacre
Looking at other articles and op-eds on that website, I'm not surprised by the OP. In one article, they called Ron Paul a left-winger.

I hate to refer to someone's 'level of ignorance' but a fair number of uniformed right-wing loons consider libertarians as leftists. Goes to show they are all about the personal attack as opposed to the substance of the debate.

Take away the anger, personal attacks, misdirection and obfuscation of the right and all you are left with is an empty suit which panders to the lowest common denominator - fear.

For the record, there's a fair number of uniformed left-wing loons that consider moderates to be neocons. The door swings both ways.

 

[kage69]

Um, wow. Probably one of the worst reads I've seen on here in a good while, and with this forum that's saying something. Hope you're joking Socio...

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: bamacre
Looking at other articles and op-eds on that website, I'm not surprised by the OP. In one article, they called Ron Paul a left-winger.

I hate to refer to someone's 'level of ignorance' but a fair number of uniformed right-wing loons consider libertarians as leftists. Goes to show they are all about the personal attack as opposed to the substance of the debate.

Take away the anger, personal attacks, misdirection and obfuscation of the right and all you are left with is an empty suit which panders to the lowest common denominator - fear.

For the record, there's a fair number of uniformed left-wing loons that consider moderates to be neocons. The door swings both ways.

QFT.

 

[Lemon law]

Lets see if we can try some logic.

We have the testable hypothesis the all evil is on the left.

We have the reality that (1) GWB&co is of the right. (2) That GWB&co is evil. (3) All sorts of evil comes from the right, the center, and the left. Its just a matter of scanning
history and coming up with enough examples of evil coming from a non political left direction, and the testable hypothesis fails.

But we don't need to go to Canada to find loons, Rush Limbaugh spews the same hypothesis on a daily basis. And even if Limbaugh may reap riches from some 13.7 million dues paying ditto heads about as deluded as Socio, the rational can take some joy with the fact that the candidates Rush touted lost and lost badly.

I have long ago concluded that there is no way to salvage a mind as messed up as socio's and others on this forum. But socio does preform a needed social function by making giving those who are rational not only a good laugh, and also a sobering glimpse into how GWB has lost his own mind and can justify the acts he commits.

 

[extra]

Kay. Uhmmm. I'm gonna go with no.

There are people on the very far radical left, and there are those on the very far radical right. One of them is JUST AS BAD as the other. No real difference except on what they want to force on people.

And to think that the far right never tries to force anyone to do anything, right. Except about trying to enforce their strange "morals" on everyone. Hmmm funny. Same thing those that are far radical left try to do.

Both are devoid of reality and common sense and decency. I wouldn't call them all "evil", just wrong.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Atreus21
I can't help but feel a bit relieved that some thinkers remain on the right.

Unfortunately after reading your post and the OP's post it's very evident that you and Sociopath aren't among them.