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grkM3 said:
Stock battery my extended pos battery was actually getting worse.there are 2 I phones 5s in our family and I can tell you first hand real world use the gs3 blows it away in battery.

I'm a power user and also have live news and stock widgets on my home screen.I managed 6 hours one time but stay right around 5-5.5 ost.

Basically I get a full day without charging with all push turned on with easy.

Gs3 gets great battery life with latest ota update
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Why is it I hear about how great Android battery life is and then I actually buy an Android device it's not like that?

With my iPhone (Every iteration) I just buy the phone sync it up and I am good to go for at least a full day. I did the same with HTC One X and it died in like 8-9 hours and it is supposed to have good battery life.

When I mention this to some of the people I know they bring up stuff like "Maybe you have a rogue app" or "Aww dude you have to turn off xxx setting or you won't get good battery life" that's just stupid. It should be as simple as plug and play if it requires more effort than that it's not worth it to me.
 
What is so exciting about this phone? It's just another big, high end (if slightly cheap looking) Android device. I can't see anyone with anything newer than say a One X caring about the SIV.
 
badb0y said:
When I mention this to some of the people I know they bring up stuff like "Maybe you have a rogue app" or "Aww dude you have to turn off xxx setting or you won't get good battery life" that's just stupid. It should be as simple as plug and play if it requires more effort than that it's not worth it to me.
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You say that but there are plenty of people who encounter the same thing on their iPhone 4/5's. I would go "strange, the iPhone 5 should have pretty good battery life" when they complain the battery just drains quickly.

I think all the platforms have fairly common scenarios where somebody's pattern kills the battery particularly quickly. Still Apple's phones do better in general.
 
Here is what I usually get out of my gs3.I have nothing to hide.

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwiwh7qtd8bz0gp/Screenshot_2013-01-06-21-33-19.png
 
badb0y said:
Why is it I hear about how great Android battery life is and then I actually buy an Android device it's not like that?

With my iPhone (Every iteration) I just buy the phone sync it up and I am good to go for at least a full day. I did the same with HTC One X and it died in like 8-9 hours and it is supposed to have good battery life.

When I mention this to some of the people I know they bring up stuff like "Maybe you have a rogue app" or "Aww dude you have to turn off xxx setting or you won't get good battery life" that's just stupid. It should be as simple as plug and play if it requires more effort than that it's not worth it to me.
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I agree. Every time I open an android battery thread, the responses are "Install XYZ kernel from this random dude from XDA and then disable sync, email, and everything else. Should last you 50 hours now." Why can't Samsung make a good kernel battery/ but some random guy on XDA can make a better one? Or the rogue app statement....
"Google/Samsug/HTC is aware of the issue and will release an update for it," when they get around to it in 4 months.

Android fanboys are just as bad as the apple ones.
 
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ImDonly1 said:
I agree. Every time I open an android battery thread, the responses are "you're a dumbass that can't setup an android phone properly. Install XYZ kernel from this random dude from XDA and then disable sync, email, and everything else, should last you 50 hours now."

Android fanboys are just as bad as the apply ones.
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Since people tell me I'm doing it wrong, I'm disabling Exchange today and disabling Latitude. Both of these features are on my iPhone. Let's see how my Android phone does in battery. Hell I'll turn on Find my Friends on my iPhone today too. My iPhone has been off the charger since 9am, but I'm bump charging my Android phone now to see the rundown from 100%.
 
There are plenty of Android phones with battery life worse than an iPhone 5 and several with better battery life without having to change a single setting. There are lots of ways to improve battery life if you don't like how a phone performs at stock.

Most phones have well documented battery life. Why anyone would buy one that isn't able to suit their needs then complain about it later is beyond me.

This isn't rocket science lol
 
Battery tests are done with apps looping. It's a video test or some web test where it's constantly reloading. In that sense you're testing how the CPU or GPU works.

However, there's standard use. How much battery does an Android phone use syncing Twitter versus an iOS device? A lot more. Because in order to get push notifications for Android, you're forced to use pull syncing also. Push isn't very data intensive, but maybe a developer can better explain how Google Push versus Apple push works. Push on iOS maintains a direct connection with Apple servers. So all apps route their notifications through Apple. Your battery life is correlated to how many push requests there are. Does Android use a central Google server? If so then that's ok. If you need to maintain multiple connections with multiple servers, then that sucks. That's probably why syncing Exchange mail for me sucks a lot more because that's a constant connection with my company's mail server. Anyway, Twitter is just one app, there's many others that use background data while Apple relies purely on push.

I think there's plenty of other things out there like widgets and stuff that rely on periodic sync. Everytime you sync, the modem needs to power up and initiate a data connection.

Users here have already said that modem vs wifi = huge power difference. Android use far more data than iPhones do for the average user with similar patterns. This in turn translates to huge power differences.
 
ImDonly1 said:
I agree. Every time I open an android battery thread, the responses are "Install XYZ kernel from this random dude from XDA and then disable sync, email, and everything else. Should last you 50 hours now." Why can't Samsung make a good kernel battery/ but some random guy on XDA can make a better one? Or the rogue app statement....
"Google/Samsug/HTC is aware of the issue and will release an update for it," when they get around to it in 4 months.

Android fanboys are just as bad as the apple ones.
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That's because they're 1) either lying 2) spend more time "optimizing" their phone by turning off a lot of stuff or, in the case of OLED users, having black backgrounds with white texts at lowest settings and other nonsense 3) wasting even more time downloading ROMs from "Jake" in Taiwan or "Jethro" in Michigan 4) buying massive, brick-like batteries or 5) all of the above.

I find all these brag threads amusing. I mean, it's like all these people are power users who are on their phone 24 hours a day and can't find time to plug it in🙄 It's all BS.
 
dguy6789 said:
There are plenty of Android phones with battery life worse than an iPhone 5 and several with better battery life without having to change a single setting. There are lots of ways to improve battery life if you don't like how a phone performs at stock.

Most phones have well documented battery life. Why anyone would buy one that isn't able to suit their needs then complain about it later is beyond me.

This isn't rocket science lol
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I know right? We know Android is not as efficient as iOS but does more so it uses more battery. So that's why some of us like removable battery or really large enclosed battery. But unless you like punishing yourself, why would you buy an Android phone which won't last through your entire normal day and complain about short battery life? Especially a phone that drains like 6% an hour on standby? After 15 hours, it's down to 10% battery life and in the red and you haven't even touched the phone! Imagine if you used it like an hour. You wouldn't last 8-10 hours. I like Android but if my phone battery life was that bad, I would have thrown that phone against the wall.
 
DLeRium said:
Does Android use a central Google server?
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On correctly-coded apps, yes. Look up Google Cloud Messaging.

Problem is that a lot of devs are stupid/only understand iOS (*cough*Facebook*cough*) and don't use this service.

Anyway, this is a massive threadjack. I'm certain the 2600mah battery on the S4 will be pretty kick-ass... even if the US version *is* limited in low-use efficiency by having Krait instead of A7.
 
I'd say using Krait is a plus overall in terms of battery life anyway.

As a sidenote, the Note 1 has a 2500mah battery so a 2600mah battery is enormous. Standby power should be no worse than 1% per hour with such a huge battery.
 
Are you talking about standby or actual use?

In standby, it's deep-sleep that matters so Krait vs A7 isn't going to be much different.

In regular active use, power draw has historically been dominated by the radio and screen. Again the marginal benefits of A7 over Krait shouldn't be that huge. Does A7 finally implement fine-grained clocking of the cores like Snapdragon has been doing?


Under heavy load it's A15 vs Krait and we don't need to even discuss which will use less power there.
 
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ImDonly1 said:
I agree. Every time I open an android battery thread...
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...there's a whole lot of yapping about iPhones.

This is a thread about the S4.[not a 'battery thread' either] How about more discussion about that? We only have to wait another year or more before there's a new iPhone to yack about. 😛


So, on topic: If that's the design of the S4, all I can say is, I hope there's time to go back to the drawing boards. Samsung needs some new designers, desperately. Spend some of those profits and hire the good ones away from HTC where their talent is mostly wasted.
 
grkM3 said:
Stock battery my extended pos battery was actually getting worse.there are 2 I phones 5s in our family and I can tell you first hand real world use the gs3 blows it away in battery.

I'm a power user and also have live news and stock widgets on my home screen.I managed 6 hours one time but stay right around 5-5.5 ost.

Basically I get a full day without charging with all push turned on with easy.

Gs3 gets great battery life with latest ota update
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I get 8 hrs on my iPhone 5. Half LTE half wifi.
 
badb0y said:
OK we are going way off topic here, any other news on the S4?
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No. I find it hard to believe that the GS4 will come with a Qualcomm SoC for the American version. The only reason (we were told) why the American version of the GS3 came with a Qualcomm SoC was because Samsung did not have a SoC with LTE on it. Well, the Galaxy Note 2 has their Exynos whatever with LTE. So I doubt that their GS4 would be a step backward.
 
Apple is getting desperate, going on the defensive and trying to downplay Samsung's announcement tomorrow: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324077704578358760931327672.html

This was unheard of during the Jobs era, and another sure sign that Apple is slowly on it's way down.

Besides Schiller shilling for Apple corporate, we have some Apple users doing the same here on the forums, I see.
 
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jpeyton said:
Apple is getting desperate, going on the defensive and trying to downplay Samsung's announcement tomorrow: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324077704578358760931327672.html

This was unheard of during the Jobs era, and another sure sign that Apple is slowly on it's way down.

Besides Schiller shilling for Apple corporate, we have some Apple users doing the same here on the forums, I see.
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"When you take an Android device out of the box, you have to sign up to nine accounts with different vendors to get the experience iOS comes with," he said. "They don't work seamlessly together."

This is so retarded that "retarded" is an understatement. I signed in with 1 account on my Android (gmail) and it synced pretty much everything. Then I have the option to go with other accounts if I have them (facebook, outlook, for instance), but my google account holds pretty much everything.
 
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